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  1. #111
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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    It's artifact gear. I've said that multiple times, it's not something they were gonna hand out. And also it keeps crafters relevant. And keeps Gil circulating in the economy for vanity. Not trying to defend it, just telling people to actually see what goes into one and that it's not that hard. But they won't listen :/
    But no, none of this makes any sense at all. There are a million other ways they could have kept crafters relevant with vanity. There is absolutely no reason, for instance, for the craftable vanity stuff to be lvl 50 ********************+1 million. There should be dozens and dozens of vanity sets spread from level 1 to level 50 ***************+1 million. SE just knows they've screwed up and that there is too much gil in the game, so they're making up idiotic ways to try to drain that gil. They could have kept crafters relevant by giving them ilvl 100 gear to craft, with maybe some that would allow the crafters to upgrade that 100 gear to 110 gear.

    The "It's artifact gear, they're not going to just hand it out" excuse is dumb, because they DID just hand it out. We got all of our AF gear via simple job quests. This should have been as simple as an easy, accessible, and repeatable quest line that culminated in the ability to dye one set of AF gear without having to spend millions of gil.

    This is just an example of the SE devs seeming to think that everything has to be complicated and expensive. It's ridiculous. Stop trying to defend it or explain it as if it were understandable.
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    Last edited by TheRogueX; 07-16-2014 at 04:08 AM. Reason: i'm tired of the 1000char crap

  2. #112
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Give crafters a way to take CT1 gear and turn it into i95 with materia slots. Seriously, that would be great. I didn't get all the vanity I wanted out of CT1 and it's horrible trying to get groups for it these days .
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  3. #113
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    This is just an example of the SE devs seeming to think that everything has to be complicated and expensive. It's ridiculous. Stop trying to defend it or explain it as if it were understandable.
    But there ARE vanity items from 1-50***. How many people use Leather Sandals for vanity? That's a level 1 equip, and a level 1ish craft! What about the Boarskin Skirt? that's a level ~45 craft and looks really nifty. How about the brand new Oval Glasses? That is an under 40 synth for a vanity item. Also, the Highland set is a pure vanity set with a crafting level of 40. I've seen tons of people use the Patrician's set, or other Coatees for their vanities, and they're level ~49ish. What about the Stablemaid's Hat? Looks almost identical to the 50**ish Cloche at a fraction of the price, cost, and difficulty. And what about the most popular glamour items, the hempen set? I see that more than anything, and that's crafting level ~1, required level 1, and useless in a fight. What is that for besides vanity?

    Want to dress up like an FFT thief? I have a glamour set (taken from someone else) that involves leather shoes (crafting level ~1), Velveteen halfgloves and a velveteen bandanna (both somewhere mid-level), and yes, sailor brais (50**) (the shirt is a dungeon drop). There really aren't better items for that vanity, and those items are all across the board.

    I don't get it when people say that they don't want all vanity items to be worth millions of gil. Guess what? They're not. Almost any item can be used in a vanity. Heck, my current glamours for my main use nothing above crafting level 45.

    So, a small number of items that are to be used for vanity are expensive items that take expensive materials and high level/skill crafters to make. The majority are found other ways, through low level crafts or from dungeons. I rate your statement: False.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    SE just knows they've screwed up and that there is too much gil in the game, so they're making up idiotic ways to try to drain that gil.
    How's this example drain any gil from the game?
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  5. #115
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelisC View Post
    How's this example drain any gil from the game?
    To add on, you technically don't have to spend any gil to augment all the gear. Most items are obtained through myth tokens.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelisC View Post
    How's this example drain any gil from the game?
    People can be insanely impatient when they want something shiny.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    SE just knows they've screwed up and that there is too much gil in the game, so they're making up idiotic ways to try to drain that gil.
    Gil is infinite in this game. Why people are suggesting the new crafted sets are a sink is beyond me. How are the producers/designers of the game supposed to provide a sink when the game itself rewards an infinite amount of gil for doing just about anything in it? Example: Roulette. Do it once, you get a XX00 gil bonus. Roulette again, and you get 1500 gil just for doing so. Gil sinks are an illusion. There is no spoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    People can be insanely impatient when they want something shiny.
    "But why do I have to do X to get more gil? I want to do Y because it's faster." — Usually the argument I hear. In that instance, it's not about how much gil but how much time the players want to put in to attaining item Z.
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    Last edited by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider; 07-16-2014 at 05:49 AM.

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    People can be insanely impatient when they want something shiny.
    But even so, the gil doesn't just vanish, it goes back into circulation in small or large amounts, depending on the person. I think this is what they were questioning about:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    . SE just knows they've screwed up and that there is too much gil in the game, so they're making up idiotic ways to try to drain that gil.
    ...which makes no sense on this subject.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 07-16-2014 at 05:46 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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  10. #119
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    Mickk Heiral
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    I still agree with the OP... why the hell is a gear augment (that's just going to be used as glamours, not as useful gear) crafted from high cost items? The augmentations are going from 500-1.5 million PER on my server... so, potentially over 3 million to be able to dye an AF body? It's not worth it IMHO.
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  11. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickk View Post
    I still agree with the OP... why the hell is a gear augment (that's just going to be used as glamours, not as useful gear) crafted from high cost items? The augmentations are going from 500-1.5 million PER on my server... so, potentially over 3 million to be able to dye an AF body? It's not worth it IMHO.
    Can just farm myth tokens for the expensive materials.
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