RIP Titan-egi Ramuh runs.

[madolyn]

rip titan egi 2014-2014

[zPanda]

Probably for the people using third party programs for the hunts. I wouldn't consider people who tried the Titan Egi strategy to be engaging in malicious activity. It was an exploit, to be sure, but it was still a pretty clever strat. And tanks can still join if they have all DPS accessories and go Sword Oath or no Defiance.

Oh well, back to the intended strat. But I imagine people will still do this if the damage isn't crazy high. If not, you were a hero for a short time, Titan Egi.

Not even an exploit. They weren't doing anything to glitch or circumvent the rules of the game. Titan-Egi was supposed to be the "tank-type" pet after all, and thunder being weak against stone isn't anything new in the FF world. People were complaining T2 enrage method was an "exploit" too but it obviously isn't for the same reasons (not glitching the game, etc.) and SE has basically left that strategy/tactic alone.

If anything, tanking Chimera at the top of the hilltop is more of an exploit than the examples above since you could argue you are using elevation/geography to negate intended behavior of certain moves, but SE obviously doesn't have a big issue with this fight since it's easy anyway and no loot drops from it.

[Leigaon]

At least it only goes to striking tree hard and extreme. Other modes are still titan egi friendly, though they don't really "matter" right now I can still use Titan for Levi tail or moogle ex.

I figured something would be done about it, but it had a lot of harm in it due to the way the Ramuh fight works. Besides tank swapping there's not absolute need for a secondary tank and that's what Titan Egi took away. This also put SMN into a "staple" for these runs and pushing out both tanks from party finder. As a person who has both now tanked with Titan Egi and healed him, a bard is required for safe measure as a healer. Not just in Ramuh but in other things as well. Pushes in bards in a forced slot..not like things aren't already like that, just another example. On top of this, people were starting to question the summoners HP and titans HP for confirmation before going into runs. I would have some people ask what is their titans HP, if it wasn't high enough they'd find another summoner.

This all does something Yoshi is not a big fan of and that's neglecting players in an unfair way. I know there's exceptions and someone is bound to go say "You mean neglecting a job such as...", yes like that whatever your example is. But all in all they try very hard to keep things balanced. In the end it is the players fault for having this done, people found a way to do something faster and hurt other tanks / summoners from completing the content, rather than using titan to work with players to not make things go so much faster..but go a bit smoother. Working with the tanks, rather than replacing them.

This did bring to the spot light one good thing at least imo, and that's the general use of titan. Right now I got summoners using Ifrit during runs on trash and then garuda on bosses, switching things out, this left Titan all alone in any type of content. This has shown people that titan can be capable of lessening the burden on content that involves extra mobs temporarily. Which case I would be over joyed to bring out Titan egi to help hold off a mob that would normally be beating down on a tank. It's an extra HP bar to look after but as a healer healing Titan Egi during moogle EX, it was a lot less of a burden. We got something good and screwed it up, but it left us with people having an understanding of what titan egi could do WITH other tanks in various content rather than replacing.

[Tupsi]

Not even an exploit. They weren't doing anything to glitch or circumvent the rules of the game. Titan-Egi was supposed to be the "tank-type" pet after all, and thunder being weak against stone isn't anything new in the FF

Two things:

1. It ignored a mechanic
2. Yoshida stated since beta he will not be introducing elemental resistances in this game since it would have "made it so players would choose 1 class over another" So while yes, earth grounds electricity..ARR isn't exactly known for its elemental affinities by design. When people brought this up most of the people who only played FFXIV or other MMOs with no resistances were in full agreement we shouldn't have an elemental wheel. (or hexagon..)

If anything, tanking Chimera at the top of the hilltop is more of an exploit

This is called "line of sight", the game is actually designed to allow certain attacks be blocked by line of sight. For example Soulflayer's "Mind Melt" can be blocked by going behind a pillar - that's intended design. The terrain elevation is technically a line of sight since you are below it's line of sight. Ignoring a tank swap mechanic is more of an "exploit" than line of sight. (It wasn't an exploit but it clearly wasn't intended or they would have allowed PLD/WAR to ignore it as well.)

[MissE]

Titan-Egi was supposed to be the "tank-type" pet after all, and thunder being weak against stone isn't anything new in the FF world.

You know what, I completely agree with you. I'm not sure why my Fire is doing full damage to the fire elemental though, I'm going to report that as a bug.

[whiskeybravo]

So much for other Egi's being useful.

[Tupsi]

So much for other Egi's being useful.

Ifrit definitely needs work, but Titan/Topaz Carby still has uses, just because you can no longer ignore a mechanic and exclude tanks doesn't make it useless xD

[madolyn]

exclude tanks.....lol. I'm a career tank and I participated as DPS. it was a welcomed change of pace.

[whiskeybravo]

Ifrit definitely needs work, but Titan/Topaz Carby still has uses, just because you can no longer ignore a mechanic and exclude tanks doesn't make it useless xD

Oh, I haven't even attempted REX yet. Just funny that people find a use for a summon other than Garuda and then it gets nixed

Exclude tanks? See dungeons 15-32.. Lol.. Ran them all without tanks before. Hell before the tanks get there stances my DRG and MNK can keep hate as well as a tank.

[Rex]

Oh, I haven't even attempted REX yet. Just funny that people find a use for a summon other than Garuda and then it gets nixed

Exclude tanks? See dungeons 15-32.. Lol

...I'm sorry, you haven't attempted what yet?