Tanks are so mainstream. (Ramuh extreme done without tanks)

[Synestr]

What dropped? Did Titan-egi get to roll doe?

[reality_check]

Are we all so quick to forget the fiasco, and the prematurely deemed "exploit," that was coil turn 2?

[Pantz]

Oh really so u wanna labeled all fights requiring no tanks like 8 WHM setups to be an exploit ? I'm sure that offended u more considering it negated both tank and dps roles considering ur mindset is so WoW-ish with the traditional holy trinity setup.
Redundant? U do realize this no tank setup requires a level of coordination similar to ur static hence no tank loot dramas? just because a mainstream strategy is well known it DOESN"T MEAN any different setup strategies is labelled as exploit Using ur brain and creativity isn't an exploit duh!

No I dont. Fights like 8 WHM are usually much harder than the traditional trinity method. Or it requires the 8 WHMs to be overgeared. Very different from this situation. This situation makes a class redundant while making it much easier than intended. And no, sometimes when you use your creativity, it ends up as an exploit. Look at all those creative con-artists around. And politicians.

Anyway, why so mad? If you are so insistent that this isn't exploit, then just carry on with it. In the end, it's still SE's decision whether this is an exploit or not and whether to continue to allow it.

[Truxton]

Summoners actually getting notoriety for something besides 4 renaud stack in turn 7? Better call it an exploit and demand they remove titan-egis viability as a tank pet. Lets remove ifrit-egi too while we're at it because anything that seems outside the norm should immediately be banhammered into oblivion. I wanna say that i'm disappointed in the community, But I kind of expected a mob of people like this. Good job FFXIV community, you never cease to amaze me with your all consuming desires to always have something to complain about. /clap

[Logo]

As smart as this is. I really hope it gets hotfixed immediately. Tanking on this game is already starting to lack, and now I don't need to be banned from certain fights altogether.

Really? Really?
Because one group getting creative means your never going to do Ramuh now.
Ridonkey kong.

[Nestama]

After trying both methods of the fight (winning neither, boo), I think it's okay. You can still bring a tank, just have them equipped in STR gear/accessories. While it does remove the tank swap mechanic, it requires healers to have the Egi on Focus Target (and it helps to have a /ac "Physick" <tt> macro) as well as always keeping the SMN at 100% HP (and if they or Titan KO, it's more or less a wipe). You still have to deal with collecting orbs to lessen Thunderstrike's damage, Chaos/Seduce and Rolling Thunder.

[Narissa]

I wanna say that i'm disappointed in the community, But I kind of expected a mob of people like this. Good job FFXIV community, you never cease to amaze me with your all consuming desires to always have something to complain about. /clap

Agreed, the reaction of this thread went from happy to completely down hill and away from any real type of joy. So filled with hate, I even ignored a few people. Its just very disappointing :\

If they deem this tactic unfit then so be it, we aren't going to complain, we had alot of fun being creative with it. We never forced anyone to handle the fight in this way, they choose to and its a great compliment to us, so thank you to everyone on this thread that gave it a shot, you honor us <3

We're just overwhelmed that so many people took notice of this, even MrHappy made a guide on it and some top FC's tried it out.

[RathSkybreaker]

This is such a cheese way to win this fight, please fix this SE.

[Alish]

This is such a cheese way to win this fight, please fix this SE.

I don't know, enrage T2 wins are far cheesier. People still have to deal with the mechanics unlike enraging ADS in T2.

[RathSkybreaker]

I don't know, enrage T2 wins are far cheesier. People still have to deal with the mechanics unlike enraging ADS in T2.

The only difference is that cheesing Ramuh leaves you with one mechanic to deal with and enrage got rid of all of them, not much of a difference.