Elite Hunt with SE ... nothing for free

[blowfin]

It's been quite a few years since I've read about this and didn't think I'd ever see this pathetic claim again. While I am absolutely against cheating, I think I can safely guess you're just spewng conjecture around. Or did you have any sort proof that everybody that claimed HNM in FFXI botted ?

Not sure what game you were playing, but claiming bots were part and parcel of HNM in XI. If you wanted to get hold of any of them consistently you pretty much needed claiming assistance. Or some other shell with bots would beat you to the claim.

Of course this wasn't so much the case later on, but when Kings and Cerb/Khimaira/Tiamat were in full demand, you can bet your ass all of the top shells had people using claim bots. Serket is a daft example, it wasn't worth camping for any serious HNM shell. Nobody cared about NQ behemoth either, the only reason to kill it was to get ToD for the next window. Post Abyssea is was pretty common to see him walking around unclaimed.

And SE did learn from it, they stopped making ground HNM's in XI, or made them harder to bot claim e.g. Ixion and Sandworm.

[Double]

Not sure what game you were playing...

I could say the same for you,

SE dropped the largest banhammer known to existence years after they had all the associated data and information and back-handed witty compliance needed to nail those very successful linkshells who thought needing to Bot/Dupe/Glitch/Abuse was the best idea since sliced bread.

What people don't understand is that this situation could very well be the start of something nasty and game-breaking for the progression of players and the game itself.

The last thing we need is LiveJournals, Tumblrs, Twitters, Facebooks filled with giant speeches made from the top 5% of the game players QQ'ing about how "innocent" their antics were. If you're cheating, you're cheating no way around that.(It did happen by the way. Most cases were beyond pathetic.)

If you're selling runs, it's up to the player to associate themselves with cheaters but if they get caught in the fire, what are they going to say?

"Uhhh, I didn't know?" Yeah good luck getting out of that.

[Myrhn]

If you're selling runs, it's up to the player to associate themselves with cheaters but if they get caught in the fire, what are they going to say?

"Uhhh, I didn't know?" Yeah good luck getting out of that.

I was with you until your said that people that sell runs are cheatear. How do you even get to that conclusion?!

[Double]

I was with you until your said that people that sell runs are cheatear. How do you even get to that conclusion?!

I was assimilating that if you're getting every A-S rank claim so quickly or "Faster than intended", you can't sit back and turn a blind eye on what you've gotten yourself into. I didn't say selling runs itself is bad but if you know you hold an unfair advantage with 3rd party tools and now abusing it by selling spots in your pt or linkshell, how can you possibly with a straight face say you're playing the game as intended?

The only difference between this and the "FFXI: Aht Urghan Ban of the Decade" where SE holds the current record of bans across their servers is that the Very Successful players aren't keeping the app mechanic to themselves and calling SE stupid for being oblivious to it.