Most overpowered job in frontlines?

[Jasiwel]

I haven't played Frontlines yet (I should, but I shouldn't, I didn't pick up FFXIV again to PvP), but from the way it sounds Melee DPS are good goalies and nothing more. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Kazama]

A lot of people are saying Warrior. For one, Warrior itself is pretty bad. Marauder on the other hand is pretty good.

For those in love with Holmgang, you probably don't have much experience in Wolves Den.

Holmgang > Healer Attunes = Fail
Holmgang > Player Purifies = Fail
Holmgang > WHM Fluid Aura = Fail
Homlgang > SMN Uses Garuda's Shockwave = Fail
Holmgang > BLM Sleeps = Fail
Holmgang > WHM Sleeps = Fail

Holmgang has like a 50% chance to be evaded by the other player yet a 100% chance of binding you. Don't get me wrong it's good but it has to be used very wisely and it's only 1 skill. As a R25 healer in Wolve's Den I can honestly tell you that aside from maybe 2-3 derps, I have never died to HG and I definitely haven't died to it in Frontlines. Nor has anyone in my party while on WHM.

IME

Solo:
SCH > WHM > SMN > BLM > BRD > MRD > MNK > DRG > PLD

In a good group:
SMN > SCH > BLM > WHM > BRD > MRD > MNK > DRG > PLD

[LalaRu]

As long as any kind of damage will interrupt your cast, playing with something whose main casts are longer than 1s, is destined to have hard time on doing anything and it is not suited to play PvP. BRD have the edge mainly because all their skills are instant so they can make spells moving and does no care of interrupts.

[Kazama]

As long as any kind of damage will interrupt your cast, playing with something whose main casts are longer than 1s, is destined to have hard time on doing anything and it is not suited to play PvP. BRD have the edge mainly because all their skills are instant so they can make spells moving and does no care of interrupts.

Go 1v1 with a good BLM and you will quickly see this is not the case. Manawall + Enhanced Equanimity + Surecast + Swiftcast gives the BLM A good solid 30s of freecasting, considering I 3-shot BRDs that is about 3x more than I need even if they manage to time a good Blunt on me. When in the chaos of a 8v8 it's hard to call us out and all we need to do is land a fire III and a slowcast flare then Convert SC Flare, nightwing and LB.


But, that said, I think at least 75% of BLMs don't know what a face target macro is and will fail miserably in PvP.

[Doki]

Try taking a point from 6 whms all spamming medica, holy, medica, holy, cure III, holy, with 2 sch dotting you and spaming thier heals as well. Two full teams couldn't drop them.
Also, nerfing the timer on stun, and then leaving sleep long as hell is BS.

[silentwindfr]

it just me or Mnk so weak vs DRG

if the dragoon is good, you will never get the position right, more important if you loose the sight for attack for 6 second... no more GL. monk is by far one of the weakest class in pvp. indeed they have powerfull debuff but is not enough for counter the fact that they have a damage ridiculous and no burst.

ps: i do hope the ninja will not be as much based on the positioning... because god, position in pvp it's really a disadvantage.

[Yumi_umi]

Imo i think sch and whm are equal in terms of 1vs1.
But imo if it was sch vs whm, a whm would technically win as
Fluid aura on fairie -> equanimity repose on sch ( wait for purify ) -> repose again then on fairie -> PoM CS aero 2 / aero 1 -> swiftcast holy or stone 1 then spam aero 1 to keep interrupting their cast time. Use tht offensive aether skill * frogot name * as a quick interrupt too.
Swiftcast stone skin will negate dots/damage for a good chunk of time ^^

Also btw has anyone heard of the term kill stealing?
Probably half / 1/4 of ppl's kills r from nabbing a kill from someone who had really low health before engaging you.

[Gallus]

Imo i think sch and whm are equal in terms of 1vs1.
But imo if it was sch vs whm, a whm would technically win as
Fluid aura on fairie -> equanimity repose on sch ( wait for purify ) -> repose again then on fairie -> PoM CS aero 2 / aero 1 -> swiftcast holy or stone 1 then spam aero 1 to keep interrupting their cast time. Use tht offensive aether skill * frogot name * as a quick interrupt too.
Swiftcast stone skin will negate dots/damage for a good chunk of time ^^

Sounds like a perfect plan...except it would NOT work xD. If you repose the SCH and he/she uses purify, you have exactly 7 seconds to kill a 3800hp EOS. If you expect to do 3800 damage to EOS with just Aero II + Aero + Swiftcast Holy you are a bit naive. And even if you magically did, the SCH can swiftcast another EOS.

[Jubez187]

Pretty much, with any swords and sorcery PvP game..the melee players say the ranged is OP and the ranged is saying the melee is OP.


I think heals overall need to be nerfed. 4 healer parties are getting insane.

[LalaRu]

Go 1v1 with a good BLM and you will quickly see this is not the case.

We are talking battlegrounds, not 1v1.

Manawall

Instant.

+ Enhanced Equanimity

Shortens recast time to 180 seconds. Your PvP ends long before that.

+ Surecast

Instant.

+ Swiftcast

Instant. And have 60s recharge. Do you seriously want PvP the full lenght of a battleground with skills you can use 1 time per minute?

gives the BLM A good solid 30s of freecasting

Sure, and in the while its opponent what does? He will wait the BLM buffing himself then attack? Or he needs wait until blm's first attack skill lands, before counter? Let me know then. On top of that, your awesome rotation is based on instant skills, making my point more than valid. You need rely on instant casts.