Missed Opportunity: Elite Marks and What They Should Have Been

[Bucy]

Hunting parties & the ToS violations they are spawning are a sadness this game will now endure. People doing mark hunts for hours, for days, & with no end in sight, so they can upgrade, or store up sands. Grind that caters to those with massive amounts of free time, & leaves the working class/parental types to do dailies that will take over 100 days to acquire a sands. Was the myth grind for zodiac weapons really not enough?

This is a missed opportunity to take a bit of grind out of FFXIV. The game will now be abused with radar plugins. There is no good reason to do the daily mark hunt, because waiting for a fate(s) to get a total of 7 seals doesn't make sense, when you can get 20ish allied seals for killing 1 thing in 15 s.

We could have had a daily duty that takes 20-60 min that gives enough seals so that in X days we can afford a sands. A quest that caters to the needs of players who have just enough time to log in, do a dungeon, & a raid.

TL;DR
make hunts a duty

[Rufalus]

The daily things that give 1 seal each should give 10 instead. You would still need 75 of them just for one sands of time but it's a lot better than 750.

I also think regular GC seals should buy oil and sand, even if they cost 20,000 and 30,000 seals each.

[Sepix]

I also think regular GC seals should buy oil and sand, even if they cost 20,000 and 30,000 seals each.

You serious? I can farm over 100k Seals in a few hours. That would be freaking insane!

[Nutz]

You serious? I can farm over 100k Seals in a few hours. That would be freaking insane!

Yeah, it would have to be more like 50,000 seals to buy one of those bloody adventure logs so 150,000 GC seals for sands. It's just far too easy to get tens of thousands of seals. I think I get around 3,000 daily without any direct attempt to get seals.

[kukurumei]

to take a bit of grind out of FFXIV.

Seriously? Seriously!?

I'm not going to spew the usual terms that usually goes along with it.

But FF14 has so little grind, it's just...not even a MMO in many many ways. ARR's walled garden approach is practically xenophobic in design for a better part of the game,

Marks is a long way to alleviate that.

Again Seriously!?

I know just the type of MMOs that cater to your argument... they give people with little time, anything and everything. They just have to drop in some voting power in this area called cash shop. If you want the VIP treatment, that's a good area to start googling.

[Bucy]

yes seriously, I know a person who has spent every day since atma came out farming the stuff to only have gotten 1 yesterday. It took me weeks to do my atma weapon, and a month to do my animus, and another month to do my novus. I still have 3 other jobs to bring up to novus and the myth grind is not appetizing.

I've actually gotten a sand already (just farming last night), I'm as diligent as I can be, but not all of my raid group can spend that kind of time even once a week. And the seal farming got crazy today after I stopped to do RL stuff. It was ridiculous.

[kukurumei]

I'll let others throw out the "entitled" responses..

Seriously, you need to self anaylize what the the world is. You can get everything you want in a free-to-play game. That's what they're there for.

I don't like this road, so build me a short cut...is so...

and "I know a person" as well. just a faceless person with a faceless experience that can agree with anything I've said. It's great to know a person, yup.

For the record Yoshi already said, atma, atmus, and novus population numbers are roughly in line with where the the Dev team wants it be at this time period. This alone proves you're full of...

[Bucy]

I don't think you understand my criticism. I don't want it to be easier or quicker to get sands; I suggest it would be better for the game, SE and the community if it were to be less competitive and less time consuming (on a daily basis). It could be a tough quest, but not something that allows people to do it all day long repeatedly.

[SarcasmMisser]

The daily things that give 1 seal each should give 10 instead. You would still need 75 of them just for one sands of time but it's a lot better than 750.

I also think regular GC seals should buy oil and sand, even if they cost 20,000 and 30,000 seals each.

I think you wouldn't make that suggestion if you realized this so I'm going to enlighten you: You can hand in i55 crafted items for the expert delivery and farm seals in no time without even leaving a city.

I assume you care about game balance and don't just want handouts, but my faith in this community might be misplaced.

[HumsterMKX]

Come to think about it... it is easier to get oil nowadays then a freaking ATMA.