New crafted i90 DoW/DoM accessories are awful

[HaelseMikiro]

ST doesn't drop accessories, and isn't ilvl 110....

No, but it does drop Soldiery and oils of time, which combine to make 110 accessories.
I'm pretty sure that's what Kyana meant anyways

[Truedragon]

Do you even play this game bro? i90 accessories awfull? Actually they are BiS!

The high allagan/ i110 set only gives you +21 VIT, while the crafted i90 gives you +15 VIT. This works out to a loss 30 VIT total. 30 VIT translates to a loss of 450 hp.

What do you get for in return? You can meld 13 STR and 13 DEX on each piece, giving you a total of 65 STR and 65 DEX.

How good is the latter? That 65 str is the equivalent of 195 determination. Put it this way, from leveling your job from 1 to 50, you only get 40 extra stats you can tweak and put into whatever. You are now getting 65, more than 50% extra!!!

What does this do? 65 STR translates to higher damage, easier hate management, and 1% extra parry.

Lets look at the other stat, 65 DEX. How good is this. At lvl50, 65 dex WILL put you over the next DEX tier, which will give you 3% extra parry.

This is not counting the regular stat (parry that you are also getting from the accessories, 13 each for a total of 65). ~13 parry is equivalent to 1% parry. So you are getting another 5% parry from these accessories.

So you are getting in total 9% more parry rate, higher dps, better aggro management and in exchange you lose 480 hp.

It is a done deal. They are BiS. You cant even compare. 65 str is the same as getting a piece with 195 DET on it. And you are questioning the usefullness of the accessories? Are you frikkin kidding me? Do you even play this game.

As an aside, if you use all tier IV melds, this leaves you with 1 more slot on each accessory free to meld whatever you like, be it DET, ACC, or CRIT.

You are out of your mind if you think i110 accesories which give only 1 primary stat and 2 secondary stats can compete with the fully penta melded i90s. Do you even know how to play this game. The difference lies in i110 (1 primary stat, no choice in secondary stat) and i90 (THREE primary stats, 2 secondary stat of which 1 is your choice). Done deal, period.

There is actually another side to this story. In here, we assume you have all i110 high allagan / soldiery accessory so we can compare it with a set of fully penta melded i90s. In reality, there is only a couple of lucky guys on the server that actually have all 5 accesories at i110. Most folks dont even have i110 while some have a few i110s mixed with i100s.

So here I give you the other side of the story: buy it from market, or rely on the RNG Gods for a FREE i110 piece which is locked one run per week. GG.

[Truedragon]

Here is another FACT for you.

Do you know how much extra STR you get from upgrading a MNK fuma set (i80, the crystal tower 1 gear) to i110 gear (high allagan or soldiery)?
Exactly 62 extra STR.

This is not including accessories, but includes the belt. So the full Fuma gear with the belt to i110 including the belt, gives you 62 more STR.

With the accessories you can melt 65 STR total. THAT IS HOW GOOD THE i90 CRAFTED ACCESSORIES ARE. It is 30 ilvl jump in damage. Anyone who still thinks the i90 crafted accessories are shit, simply don't know how to play this game. Maybe games like Cooking Mama Wii is more suited to you then.

[Borland]

You are out of your mind if you think i110 accesories which give only 1 primary stat and 2 secondary stats can compete with the fully penta melded i90s. Do you even know how to play this game. The difference lies in i110 (1 primary stat, no choice in secondary stat) and i90 (THREE primary stats, 2 secondary stat of which 1 is your choice). Done deal, period.

I think the people complaining are generally the sort that wouldn't want to pentameld since it's more expensive than crossing fingers on a drop coming their way.

I'd be surprised if the people complaining had even considered what the max meldable stats were.

[SeraviEdalborez]

These accessories are quite potent for Accuracy builds for healers as well. Stick some VIT and Accuracy on them and you won't have to use lesser i90 stuff on your left side slots.

The usual slots used for accuracy i90 melds were head, hands, belt, and feet. Accessories are in the same "weight" tier as belts, which is the lowest of any slot.

For those who don't know what I mean by "weight" tier, look at the amount of main stat you have on any given piece of gear at a certain ilvl:

For i110:
Weapon: VIT+44, MND+42
Body/Legs: VIT+41, MND+39
Head/Hands/Feet: VIT+25, MND+24
Belt: VIT+19, MND+18
Accessories: VIT 0, MND+18

[Kimura410]

Do you even play this game bro?

I think you could have fit this question in a few more times in the wall of text.

i110 loot isn't a one time a week lockout. you have 4 different turns to possibly obtain once a week. coil 2 has also been in effect for 3 months now, so the people that actually care about the best gear for raiding have gotten plenty of drops by now.

not to mention, hunts introduced an extremely easy way to get oils and sands. these might be desirable before the next coil in a few months, but right now nobody really seems to care about them. granted I've sold a decent amount of them, but i can easily craft this stuff for myself and I'm not even worried about them. pentamelding 5 new accessories when I'm perfectly fine with my soldiery/ha gear, seems a little excessive and unnecessary. what am i gonna do, beat ramuh and syrcus tower a tad faster with this stuff? yea, thats worth my time/money.

[Giantbane]

I think the people complaining are generally the sort that wouldn't want to pentameld since it's more expensive than crossing fingers on a drop coming their way.

I'd be surprised if the people complaining had even considered what the max meldable stats were.

If the overmelding & spiritbinding Tier IVs wasn't entirely based on running around in crappy gear and pure RNG I would have less of a problem with this. It's not the cost, it's the fact that melding is now required for these not to be junk, and the spiritbinding/melding process sucks.

There's also the minor annoyance that i90s don't help you meet ilvl requirements for stuff. But that's more of an issue I have with crafted acc I make for alts as opposed to my main.