I can't be the only one who enjoys the current Hunt system....

[Prototype909]

The hunts are actually something that might keep alot of my FC from quitting this game, last patch everyone more or less universally hated. IT is a great change of pace to have worthwhile content in the open world. The majority of my free company has a very positive feedback with these, to the point many are saying it is the best content SE has added to this game.

most wish there were claims, but with that being an impossibility... the need for a massive hp increase on all hunts is required. I say nearly 100fold increase in hp. Even the hardest ones die in seconds

They die in seconds because they're not designed to be killed by the entire server, which is the entire root of the problem. They are being made into something they aren't meant to be because the rewards are so disproportionate.

[Xatsh]

They die in seconds because they're not designed to be killed by the entire server, which is the entire root of the problem. They are being made into something they aren't meant to be because the rewards are so disproportionate.

IF the rewards were any less most people would not do them.

They would be considered the same as Ramuh by many, a waste of time due to subpar rewards.

People are doing them because they have BIS rewards. Take that away and you are right they would not be done as much. Then again they could just remove them from the game instead and it would have the same effect.

[Vahlnir]

IF the rewards were any less most people would not do them.

They would be considered the same as Ramuh by many, a waste of time due to subpar rewards.

People are doing them because they have BIS rewards. Take that away and you are right they would not be done as much. Then again they could just remove them from the game instead and it would have the same effect.

The best solution in my opinion would be to simply insta-scale the marks based on how many people attack it, but cap it once it gets to a certain point. Putting a cap on Seals and/or increasing the amount of seals awarded would help as well, especially from the daily marks...it would be farmed like crazy until people reach it, but after that things would be more reasonably done for many people, as people would gain more seals and cap that much faster. Even one of these things would make a world of difference.

[Prototype909]

IF the rewards were any less most people would not do them.

They would be considered the same as Ramuh by many, a waste of time due to subpar rewards.

People are doing them because they have BIS rewards. Take that away and you are right they would not be done as much. Then again they could just remove them from the game instead and it would have the same effect.

So what, we're left with a choice between content that is going to inevitably monopolized by a select few cheaters because the rewards are so good vs. content that nobody wants to do because it doesn't drop BiS? If the only reason you're doing Content is for the rewards and not because it's enjoyable then get rid of it - it's cancer otherwise.

Hunt wasn't meant to be this ungodly content that eclipses dungeons, CT2, Ramuh and Coil even for most players at this point, the fact that it is that speaks to the problem.

[Xatsh]

So what, we're left with a choice between content that is going to inevitably monopolized by a select few cheaters because the rewards are so good vs. content that nobody wants to do because it doesn't drop BiS? If the only reason you're doing Content is for the rewards and not because it's enjoyable then get rid of it - it's cancer otherwise.

Hunt wasn't meant to be this ungodly content that eclipses dungeons, CT2, Ramuh and Coil even for most players at this point, the fact that it is that speaks to the problem.

The first 100% of the time.


If 1 group can monopolize hunt nothing is stoping other from organizing. I have 3-4 groups of people around the world scouting areas. People are getting nearly 150-200seals an hour. My group participated in 10 of the S kills when they spawned.

The enjoyment of coil is are the following:

1) It drops something worthwhile.
2) It is not an instance. Thank god
3) There is no party size requirement.. again thank god
4) It benefits groups who work together.. The first endgame mmo element in XIV to this point.

Why should it not eclipse Ramuh or CT or dungeon (hell almost everyone hated blayflox.. they only spamed it because it droped the most myth/soldiery based on time spent). Those are worthless instance content, casual fluff for those without time to spend doing real mmo content. WoW has poisoned the mainstream to think Instances should always = best gear, it was an absurd mentality 8yrs ago... and it still is. In a mmo the open world should always be more important then instance content. This game is still in the WoW clone territory by a million miles, but it is nice they added something that is not a direct rip from that game.

And explain how 1 group can monopolize? My guild cannot claim it. If I could Dox would claim probably 70% of the spawns on hyperion. Anyone can hit the mob we claim and get full reward. Yes we do not wait for 100 ppl to show up to engage, but that does not mean we are monopolizing it. My suggest is get a better group, get on TS, mumble or vent and organize yourselves. I say thank god they added content where organization pays off... everything to this point has been geared toward crap statics or solo players.

As for bis you can make the most fun content in the world and make it drop a vanity pet as the reward... and less then 20% of the game will play it, mainly the achievement hunters which are a massive minority even more so then the hardcores. MMOs are about character and guild progression endgame. IF it drops crap gear... the content is crap no matter how well designed.

Yes there are people using APPs radar, people are using deadly boss mods in coils too. I would put money on it that most the groups beating 9 have members who have or are currently using some kind of warning system or detection system to assist them. PEople on turn 5 cleared it with the APPs twintania plugin, or ACT's detection system. Or insert any not as popular program out there. Cheating will always exist. But to remove content because some group cheat, deminishes the game. We could of had a great booming economy in XIV, the game arguably has the best crafting and gathering system in the world... but it was destroyed because of Rmt fear. It is nothing buy vanity. You cannot alter design or diminish something because of the possibility of cheating, rmt or explotation. You have to detect and remove those who are. The game should always come first. Something SE has not done well in designing some elements of XIV.

IF you remove everything that can be cheated on.. you have removed all the games content besides the chat channel. Then again I guess people could program respond bots for that too.

[Shinun]

The only problem I'm having with hunts are people are complaining when FC is killing alot of them on our server. We're farming most of the day and are constantly getting /tells and being yelled at by shouts.

I've spent alot of hours these last few days farming ~4500 AN and 7 Book Drops, yet their are people just following us constantly not looking and are complaining that we're killing them.