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    Avy4576's Avatar
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    Avy D'auth
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    The issue isn't with Shield Oath or anything like that. I tanked T9 and had no issues with enmity and have been going since the patch with no issues. The issue is with Flash it is a piece of shit ability that needs to be changed to properly scale with gear. Currently it only scales with level and nothing else. This means that a i110 Paladin tank generates the same enmity from flash as a fresh level 50 paladin with Artifact gear. As of right now Paladins are useless in the new dungeons or in any instance that you need to have them pull multiple adds. So until they fix the issues with flash take a Warrior into the new dungeons and you will have an easier time holding aggro.
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avy4576 View Post
    Currently it only scales with level and nothing else.
    No; Flash scales with your weapon damage and your attack power. It's also affected by anything that modifies your damage%. However, Fight or Flight only modifies physical damage%, so, Flash is unaffected.
    Warrior's Maim (damage%), Unchained (damage%), and Berserk(attack power%), on the other hand, all modify Flash's potency.

    As far as I've tested, it's basically the equivalent of an out-of-combo Rage of Halone, or 500 enmity potency.

    As for the Shield Oath issues, I haven't noticed anything, and the testing I've done does NOT suggest that there's any problem with Shield Oath's enmity multiplier (even following death).
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    Last edited by Argyle_Darkheart; 07-12-2014 at 05:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    No; Flash scales with your weapon damage and your attack power. It's also affected by anything that modifies your damage%.
    As far as I've tested, it's basically the equivalent of an out-of-combo Rage of Halone, or 500 enmity potency.
    Considering that flash is a magic based ability it would not be affected by weapon damage, attack power or damage percentage modifiers. And as for you comment on an out-of-combo Rage of Halone, it actually generates more enmity than a flash. And the reason that I state that it is garbage is a single un-buffed Overpower generates 1.5x more aggro than a flash will. And since flash can't be buffed by any ability in our repertoire it makes it a worthless skill for trying to gain aggro on multiple mobs.
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    Will Brannigan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avy4576 View Post
    Considering that flash is a magic based ability it would not be affected by weapon damage, attack power or damage percentage modifiers ...

    Flash scales with things like weapon damage, strength, and determination. It is unaffected by Fight or Flight, but is buffed by things that modify your attack power like Berserk and potions. If I recall correctly (it's been a while since I checked), things like Raging Strikes and Blood for Blood even work with it. Uncomboed RoH and Flash are similar enmity, though I don't think Flash has any variance to its effectiveness like melee attacks do, nor can it crit (as far as I know, anyway). I'm at a bit of a loss as to how you came to the conclusion that Flash scales only with level, since that, at least, is very easy to go test. Just get two naked paladins and give one a weathered short sword and the other any level 50 weapon and have them both Flash something. The results should be obvious.

    edit: didnt really read argyle's post before posting. He's got the flash stuff right. There could be a shield oath bug floating around but I haven't noticed it.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 07-12-2014 at 10:07 PM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    The only enmity problem I'm having since the patch is with BLMs and that's simply because of the buff.

    I just have to readjust my tanking to the raised potency on their spells.
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