Name-Calling/Blacklisting Follows Every Mark, Hunts Bring Out the Worst in People

[Gerolan]

Look at what you wrote. You're the one that has it backwards. Because it's a MMO, the playerbase is the one that solves these problems.
This is exactly why [U]Yoshi didn't put a cap on it.[/U
This is not a public event. This is a hunt.

Trying to get a community to work together is not a bad thing, just takes the bad apples that feel they shouldn't be a part of a community for it all to go wrong, you mention XI so you obv played it, and would also know what happens to people that get a very bad reputation for screwing over others , they end up never being able to achieve anything as a lot of people would refuse to party up with them, and when they apply to join something it just takes one person to remind them who you are and your attitude to group events

[kukurumei]

Trying to get a community to work together is not a bad thing, just takes the bad apples that feel they shouldn't be a part of a community for it all to go wrong, you mention XI so you obv played it, and would also know what happens to people that get a very bad reputation for screwing over others , they end up never being able to achieve anything as a lot of people would refuse to party up with them, and when they apply to join something it just takes one person to remind them who you are and your attitude to group events

Does LS in 11 ever invite a non LS member into their HM attack? Faf can be done as little as 3 members and mostly 1 team of 6 and not even alliances. Ever seen them not claim and hold? ever seen them invite randoms.
No.

The only problem in 14 is that anyone can hit it for partial credit. But going for full credit is no fault of anyone. This is why there's no cap on seals.

And odds are if Open world PvP was in XI, the asshoels would have been Level1 in all classes.

Then you would still get ganked and get nothing. Because then no one would even announce ToD, and be sure to have a strike force behind their claims.

Kiddy gloves are not in MMO. If you can't handle that not everything is a hand-me-down. Then you will have problems anywhere you go

Again this is a hunt, not a public event. Stop blaming people for being hunters.

[Rajan]

Generating anger is going to happen for a while, since everyone is doing the same stuff.

There are ways to implement balance.
There could be more than one point for spawning, more frequency, and most obvious: MORE HP

Hunts aren't game-breaking though and for a large chunk of players, we're just waiting for it to balance out.

Reminds me of Black Friday.

[Tashigi]

I understand is frustrating, with how little HP the hunt targets have and all of the other issues. But... you can't honestly expect me to wait for a zerg of 150+ players to get there, risk my chance to lose credit and then pretend nothing happened.

[Tridus1x]

So far Hunts being put in the game has really made this game go backwards two steps. All the fighting between players and the Blist threats being thrown around like candy. It's pretty sad. I hope Yoshi realizes this is getting very toxic and we aren't even at a full week with the patch yet.

[Gerolan]

I understand is frustrating, with how little HP the hunt targets have and all of the other issues. But... you can't honestly expect me to wait for a zerg of 150+ players to get there, risk my chance to lose credit and then pretend nothing happened.

You likewise need to understand, some players are deliberately bragging about how their not going to wait then crying about people giving them abuse, no I would not condone the abuse nor would I condone the bragging

[KamikazeMan]

After reading this, I felt that I should mention this for anybody who really wants to take hunting elites seriously: Avoid large hunting linkshells and joining or form smaller ones. I was part of 3 hunting linkshells with over 100 members each and each time a target was called on those shells, the target would only survive for like 10 seconds - 5 if it's an elite. On top of taking all the fun away, there is a high chance you won't get many seals for only contributing to 10 seconds of the fight. Also, I'm positive that most of the linkshells that randomly invite people consist of A LOT of people who won't contribute to finding elites and wait on somebody to post a positions.

[KamikazeMan]

So far Hunts being put in the game has really made this game go backwards two steps. All the fighting between players and the Blist threats being thrown around like candy. It's pretty sad. I hope Yoshi realizes this is getting very toxic and we aren't even at a full week with the patch yet.

The blacklisting is a good thing. Do you really want to party with such an immature person who blacklists people because they can't get full credit for a hunt they didn't even find? And being too nice isn't always a good thing. Sure it's nice for people to wait 3 minutes for others to gather, but it's foolish. Foolish because you lose out on fun, seals, and run a high risk of losing that elite to others. But above all else, you waste time. You waste time because you have to hunt more elites than you should for enough seals to buy w/e you're trying to buy.

[Tashigi]

You likewise need to understand, some players are deliberately bragging about how their not going to wait then crying about people giving them abuse, no I would not condone the abuse nor would I condone the bragging

Oh I know.
It's people being people.
I am usually running around as my PLD and typically hit stuff maybe twice while under Shield Oath (which is basically no damage) and then flash spam until a few people show.
The problem is, even after 10 or so players, some people still expect you to wait even longer and that's just flat out unreasonable, given the situation we're in with the poor HP on mobs and overall lack of scalability on the mob's difficulty/HP.

The problem IMO isn't the player base, though.
It's the developers.
How could this make it past QA? Absurd.

[Gerolan]

@tashigi I honestly have no issue with people killing them before entire server turns up, it's the few bad apples on pheonix, in a party that actually abuse people in shouts and brag how they won't wait, I also agree , I really don't know how this got past QA.
This is the result of not having a proper in use test server, flaws that could of been ironed out prior to patch are being missed
Like the CT boss, if a pet attacks first he would only auto attack , all of these issues could of been sorted so much sooner