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  1. #31
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
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    alexandrite of course as you said. Thats besides the point as i haven't actually completed my animus weapon...nor has most of the free company i'm in.

    the point is the cost has to justify the outcome, and i'm simply not seeing it. its like with atma where all it did was change the color and the item level (and nothing else) after hours, days, or even weeks grinding fates. this is the same bloody thing (or pretty close to it at that), where we do a ton of grinding for what? the option to make your artifact gear dyeable in pretty colors.

    i heard a friend of mine gets around 1700 myth in about two days (he admits that he could get more if he had more time to do so.) so lets do some math

    we'll default the augmentation parts to 2500 to keep it simple. (the bards set requires saurian leather, ancient lumber, treated spruce lumber, terminus putty, and hard hippogryph skin as a note)

    17500 myth total for a fully dyeable AF set.

    1700 over the course of two days means around 20 days to get the myth needed plus another to get 500 myth. (not taking into account that if you don't have multiple crafting classes at 3 stars, you then need to find a crafter to have them craft each individual part.)

    so unless your sitting on an insane amount of gil, no life it or otherwise: have fun sitting on a massive content lock that would only allow you the option to dye a piece of vanity gear.
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  2. #32
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Not saying your wrong or anything, but 20 days in an MMO (should) be nothing. I mean, I know it's 20 days of effort but...you know...effort.
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  3. #33
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Hunts give a truckload of myth. Stay on the hunt and you'll be hitting 2k cap in no time. Also with the mass influx of myth on the market things will drop in price fast before long.
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  4. #34
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    On my server, myth mats are now half the cost they were before the patch and dropping. They spiked at release, then plummeted when people realized how easy Myth is to get. Surprisingly, some of the philo items are more expensive than some of the myth items (comparing 9x philo mats to 1x myth mats because you use philo mats nine at a time).

    Using the prices I saw last night, making an augmentation item costs only 300k in mats on my server. Sure, I'm trying to sell them for 1m since no one else is selling them below 2m, but that'll quickly drop to 500k when supply ramps up. And the price is likely to continue dropping as myth is so easy to get now.

    I wish I actually liked the look of the PLD armor since it'll be so cheap for me to augment it since I can make all the mats easy-peasy. But, I don't, so until I get a class with better AF gear to 50, I'll just sell what I can.


    EDIT: For reference, the new items cost 2.3x crafted Myth mats and 2x crafted Philo mats. Crafted Myth mats are 500 myth items + cheap items, and the 500 myth item can be bought for 55k-80k on my server. Crafted Philo mats are 9x 2,500 GC Seal items + cheap items, and the 2,500 GC items can be bought for about 8k each on my server. The "0.3" crafted Myth item costs 150 Myth and can be bought for 30k on my server.

    Put all that together and you get 30k+2*68k+2*9*8k = 310k, which is far less than people are making it out to be.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 07-10-2014 at 11:38 PM.

  5. #35
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    @OP: That is the main reason I only did my crafts for the PSN trophies. Also gg SE making exclusive content for elitists or people who bought gil.
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  6. #36
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    In all honesty, it's not as bad. Myth is sooooooo easy to get now, I've almost capped twice already. This was SE attempt to make crafters still worth something and it works. Especially for alchemy who hasn't had a shining moment yet.

    YOU don't have to have a master craft. It's very easy to find someone to craft it for you as I did. I supplied him the materials and he crafted it for me. It cost a total or 50k Gil only because I wanted to tip him for his services. I like that that they are keeping crafters relevant through vanity. People are only complaining because they can't get it all at once.

    I love my dyeable white mage robe. It was worth it ^^
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This is the least complicated MMO to exist...lol. People wanted crafting more involved, here you go. Make up your minds: Either crafting remains COMPLETELY useless in the long run, or they give it a purpose, which is it?
    I'm sorry but in what MMO being able to dye a piece of armor cost this much time and investment?

    Sure, it's just one set of armor but If they wanted to make it difficult because of the lore they shouldn't have implemented the system in the first place imo and I'm sure there are other ways to make crafting fun and useful without making things a mindless grind.
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    Last edited by RedAntares; 07-11-2014 at 09:39 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    I'm sorry but in what MMO being able to dye a piece of armor cost this much time and investment?

    Sure, it's just one set of armor but If they wanted to make it difficult because of the lore they shouldn't have implemented the system in the first place imo and I'm sure there are other ways to make crafting fun and useful without making thing a mindless grind.
    But that's just it. This isn't just "any in game armor". This is traditional artifact gear being augmented so it can be dyed. It's not gonna be handed out. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's not required that you vanity dyeable af gear.

    And like I said before. It keeps crafting relevant. Simple as that. I don't have a master craft but finding someone who does is easy as pie. I was upset at first too but when I realized how easy myth is to get now and whatnot, it's no biggie. Just a little effort.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    But that's just it. This isn't just "any in game armor". This is traditional artifact gear being augmented so it can be dyed. It's not gonna be handed out. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's not required that you vanity dyeable af gear.

    And like I said before. It keeps crafting relevant. Simple as that. I don't have a master craft but finding someone who does is easy as pie. I was upset at first too but when I realized how easy myth is to get now and whatnot, it's no biggie. Just a little effort.
    Grinds are a part of every MMO and I understand that but I'm not saying it should be handed out, I'm just saying there should be a middle ground for something so simple as to dye a piece of armor and I will not do it like you said, not because I'm angry or anything but because I simply lost interest even if myth is easier to get now.
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  10. #40
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    Grinds are a part of every MMO and I understand that but I'm not saying it should be handed out, I'm just saying there should be a middle ground for something so simple as to dye a piece of armor and I will not do it like you said, not because I'm angry or anything but because I simply lost interest even if myth is easier to get now.
    But it is traditional artifact gear like I said, they just aren't going to make it simple, that's why it is the way it is. It's not just another piece of craftable armor or a dungeon drop. This is the traditional armor handed down to you. What do you want? A quest to bring two simple items and that's it? If you simply lost interest, why? Because it's a lot of myth? What else are you gonna spend myth on anyways?
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