Naul is a nightmare; How to avoid this in the future?

[Moqi]

This is why I'm staying away from elite marks. Open world content is way too frutrating to keep up with to be fun.

I hope they'll make them spawnable by map/object and beatable by a full party/alliance, but exclusive like leve mobs are. Cap it weekly (or just the extra rewards), but anyone can get a map.

[KamikazeMan]

I advise NOT go to after the weekly target. It's not like you get a lot more seals/tomes for them anyway. You're better off hunting other B, A, and S rank targets.

[KingOfAbyss]

Even with LS, by the time you or someone calls for help, giving them the chance to read it, stop what they were doing if they can, teleport, summon mount, get to the <pos> lol

Even within 2 yalms away, if you see it, you need to jump on it else it's gone.

Nothing fun in there, specially after counting we might need about on average hmm.. 10000 allied seals for glamour, minions, alexandrites, books of blood something to convert as sand and oil of time, etc..

I liked the idea, and I understand a bounty hunt is free-for-all; for sure they will take our pleads and adjust, hopefully sooner than next patch.

[Zarzak]

I am happy I am not level 50 yet. That past couple days since 2.3 there has been nothing but RAGE from all level 50's about Naul. I have been soloing my story in Coerthas and the ONLY thing I see is angry people in the chat.

"WAIT TO KILL"
"I HATE YOU ALL!!!"

Rinse and repeat. I miss my happy go lucky Coeurl Community!!!

From Couerl here and really I see these posts about hating hunts and just don't get it..... I walked into Highlands with 2 FC members. Camped out fate + did some kills and a leve for our Animus book all while doing sweeps of the closest known spawn points for Naul. After about 90 minutes of being there we found it. This was all at about 10pm. I feel like people are going out there at prime time seeing it spawn once, raging, leaving, and making angry posts.


That being said I feel the weekly needs to be changed from "kill X mark" to "kill any S rank mark"

The difference is how it is now everyone gets funneled into 1 zone. Change it to "any S rank" and people would spread themselves among all the zones in the game. "Oh there are already 20 people running around Highlands? Lets go to Western Thanalan guys". Being a S rank would just further ensure the diluted people left int he zones would be able to actually blink before it dies.

I advise NOT go to after the weekly target. It's not like you get a lot more seals/tomes for them anyway. You're better off hunting other B, A, and S rank targets.

Truth.. The only problem with the system atm is the weekly target. If it didn't exist the system would be fine people would have a dozen zones to pick from.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

I haven't started on doing Hunts yet but from what I heard from my friends, the LS for Hunts are getting very toxic and lotsa hate going on because the monsters are dead too fast.
I would suggest that SE buff the HP of the monsters to scale with the amount of participants like they did with FATEs.

[Orophin]

I'd be ok with them being S rank only if they had the opportunity to spawn multiple times per day. As it is right now, we don't know the exact spawn conditions (rather how often they can spawn) whereas the B rank ones seem to be up at least every hour or so. People have different playing schedules and SE need to account for that, unlike what happens for Behemoth and Odin.

[Zarzak]

I'd be ok with them being S rank only if they had the opportunity to spawn multiple times per day. As it is right now, we don't know the exact spawn conditions (rather how often they can spawn) whereas the B rank ones seem to be up at least every hour or so. People have different playing schedules and SE need to account for that, unlike what happens for Behemoth and Odin.

How rare does it seem they are? Haven't done much with hunts yet due to working during the week. Reason I ask is if it was "kill any S rank" for the weekly then even if they spawned once every 10 hours with there being 13-14 zones there would be one up SOMEWHERE every hour at least. And with a whole week to get it there shouldn't be much trouble.

[Asael]

Make it so it literally takes a mob to take it down, at least until the interest dies down. At that point you can patch as needed.

Completely agree.

Just downed Naul about 20 minutes ago, that thing is super squishy for an elite mark and has very low hp. I was able to hit it maybe once from the time it was agro'd to the time it died. That alone is a very horrible way of implementing this thing. Considering there are no tracking mechanics and zero lore on this thing to hint where and when you can find it the difficulty of coming across it is pretty far out (also considering Coerthas is a very large zone). It took 3 full parties of searching assigned areas for about 2 hours before we finally found it. That paired with the mobs low defense and hp makes this whole thing counter intuitive. I can only imagine what a head ache this would be trying to go at it solo or in a small party.

Given all this the reward rates for elite marks with the pricing for allied items is absolutely absurd. 20-25 allied seals per week does not justify the amount of trouble it takes to complete the elite mark. Especially when relevant items like alexandrite or mark logs cost 200+ allied seals. Very horrible system concerning the elite marks IMO. Frankly it's less of a pain and more practical to just do the normal marks.

[Welsper59]

I just avoid setting the goal of doing it so early into the patch. Save myself the trouble and focus on other aspects of the newly introduced content, some of which does involve hunting non-mark elites from time to time. I guarantee that within the next month or so, it'll become a lot easier to hunt down the targeted mark. Part of the reason being that I don't think a lot of people realize that every zone has a B/A/S rank elite in them, and the reward for just killing them greatly outweighs the reward for the mark.

[Nekodar]

In the long run, A-rank for weekly would be best.
On those you can at least get in a few hits/spells before they're dead, actually giving you a chance to get enough contribution.
In the long run when less people are doing the hunts, A-rank is easier to get people for. Of course, by then it might be more worthwhile to actually go down to B-rank for the weekly.

The daily marks need a buff in how many allied seals you get though... 7 a day, and that's supposed to be for casuals... meaning 5 weeks to get enough seals to buy one book towards sand/oil... rewards here should be increased so that it's possible to buy one book per week.