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  1. #21
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Verranicus View Post
    Without the lore MMOs would just be spreadsheets.
    Isn't that what they are for min-maxers ?
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  2. #22
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Archer Lv 70
    Eve's just spreadsheets in space...
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  3. #23
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Eve's just spreadsheets in space...
    which Is why I don't play EVE
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  4. #24
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    Faedra Braddock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Sorry, but if you purposely choose to buy your relic, you can't blame the game for the gil-buying market
    I'd agree if that was the only way to get what you want, which is clearly not the case here.
    That's not what an opportunity cost is.

    So, as it stands, I can get 75 Alexandrites - for free - for my weapon. However, if each one were worth 1 million gil, then by using them for my weapon, I'm not selling them. Since I'm not selling them, that's 75 million gil I didn't make.

    Therefor, my weapon is worth 75 million gil.
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  5. #25
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    Kikilu Kilu
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    Balmung
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    I'm so fed up with new clothing items being patched in but still nowhere to be seen. Or at least not at affordable prices. Especially on a servers as dead as Lich. :/
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  6. #26
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    That's not what an opportunity cost is.

    So, as it stands, I can get 75 Alexandrites - for free - for my weapon. However, if each one were worth 1 million gil, then by using them for my weapon, I'm not selling them. Since I'm not selling them, that's 75 million gil I didn't make.

    Therefore, my weapon is worth 75 million gil.
    Except you don't take into account everything that your relic offers you besides financial cost.
    Like, the time it would take to actually gain those 75 millions gils compared to the real time you spent gathering alexandrites.

    Nevertheless, you can't justify gil buying (Which is illegal) by saying that you don't want to do it the "proper way"
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  7. #27
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    <insert crazy person logic>
    OMG YOUR RIGHT!

    Crafting promotes gil buying!

    CRAFTING MUST BE REMOVED!


    I don't know what world you live in but everything in the game costs gil.

    Tier 4 materia for your novus alone will run you around 5 mil. Ignoring the 1s, 2s, and 3s.

    Novus promotes gil buying!

    Some people don't feel like committing the time necessary to learn events.

    RAID LOOT PROMOTES GIL BUYING!

    zomg the travesty.

    You know what actually promotes gil buying? People's own laziness. So unless you know how to make people not be lazy were all doomed!
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  8. #28
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    Tegan Laron
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    If someone is the kind of person who will cheat and cut corners to get ahead, then they're going to buy gil no matter what. There is more than enough stuff you could make the case that it "promotes" gil buying, adding new content doesn't increase or decrease that fact.
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  9. #29
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    Actually, yes.

    Opportunity costs.
    Hmm, problem solved
    Make the crafting mats untradeable and the price for the dye go down (which should also be untradeable)
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  10. #30
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    Actually, yes.

    Opportunity costs.
    +1. Economics 101...
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