The Black Mage Rotations

[crc0427]

For the flare/fire 2 dilemma, I've found that by the time I cast flare if swift cast is down, Fire 2 has been cast 3 times which makes more damage than waiting for flare repeatedly.

This doesn't take crit into account, as it can crit on either fire 2 or flare. I've stopped using flare as a result unless swiftcast is up.

[Cynfael]

With Fire 2, you still end up "wasting" a cast on Fire 3 to gain your AF stacks after you've been forced to go UI (and probably also after you've used another cast while waiting for full MP to resume Fire 2 spam).

I'd be curious to see more math for both options, but Flare rotation seems to waste less actual AoE damage potential provided that it's not complete overkill.

[LetBloodline]

For the flare/fire 2 dilemma, I've found that by the time I cast flare if swift cast is down, Fire 2 has been cast 3 times which makes more damage than waiting for flare repeatedly.

This doesn't take crit into account, as it can crit on either fire 2 or flare. I've stopped using flare as a result unless swiftcast is up.

One is 3 sec the other is 4. How can you cast 12 sec worth of fire 2 in 4 sec?

[Benolan]

Bumping so it's easier to find for a couples BLMs in another thread.

Thanks! As someone coming back to the game and trying to get back into the swing, your efforts are appreciated!

[Aeriya]

I just do F3 > Fire II spam til low mp and still enough to cast Flare > Convert > Swiftcast + Flare > Transpose > Scathe > F3 > Fire II etc (Just that 1 scathe for me gives me mp back and by time I start casting F3 I have nearly full mp again to restart my chain.)

Also using an aoe rotation with both Flare and Fire II imo is a lot more damage than just Flare. And people who don't buff Flare with F3 are well... for lack of better words, just stupid imo sorry.

[vyaku]

I just do F3 > Fire II spam til low mp and still enough to cast Flare > Convert > Swiftcast + Flare > Transpose > Scathe > F3 > Fire II etc (Just that 1 scathe for me gives me mp back and by time I start casting F3 I have nearly full mp again to restart my chain.)

Also using an aoe rotation with both Flare and Fire II imo is a lot more damage than just Flare. And people who don't buff Flare with F3 are well... for lack of better words, just stupid imo sorry.

you've got some nerve calling other people 'stupid' with all of that bad advice you just gave.

[Uninstall]

you've got some nerve calling other people 'stupid' with all of that bad advice you just gave.

We can explain it to him, but we can't comprehend it for him.

[Nutz]

I just do F3 > Fire II spam til low mp and still enough to cast Flare > Convert > Swiftcast + Flare > Transpose > Scathe > F3 > Fire II etc (Just that 1 scathe for me gives me mp back and by time I start casting F3 I have nearly full mp again to restart my chain.)

Also using an aoe rotation with both Flare and Fire II imo is a lot more damage than just Flare. And people who don't buff Flare with F3 are well... for lack of better words, just stupid imo sorry.

You do realize that the first flare after transpose is precisely to buff the second one with AF3, right? You could use Fire 3 for a nearly identical effect, but you'll have neutered your damage by attacking a single mob instead of all of them. Also, if following blizzard 3 with something other than a thunder spell blizzard 1 will almost always do more damage, particularly after the 20 potency bump.

[scarebearz]

You do realize that the first flare after transpose is precisely to buff the second one with AF3, right? You could use Fire 3 for a nearly identical effect, but you'll have neutered your damage by attacking a single mob instead of all of them. Also, if following blizzard 3 with something other than a thunder spell blizzard 1 will almost always do more damage, particularly after the 20 potency bump.

Bit irrelevant now anyway, the double flare bug appears to have been fixed. (i.e. BLM AoE nerf)

"An issue wherein thaumaturges and black mages were able to cast multiple fire-based spells under the effect of Umbral Ice I or II."

[Behb]

I m a bit worried by reading the patch note - resolved issue section :

An issue wherein thaumaturges and black mages were able to cast multiple fire-based spells under the effect of Umbral Ice I or II.

What does that mean? bye bye multi flare?

edit : nevermind, I didnt see the last post
Can someone test it ingame? i m at work right now