Can Blue magic be incorperated in this game?

[Zarzak]

Let's be honest with ourselves. If Blue Mage is added it will be a shell of its former self. You will get all your spells through your class quests which will all run about like this...


Step 1: "Soandso we have an important mission for you. There is a terrible <insert creature here> ravaging the countryside and you must go and stop it!"

Step 2: Run to designated spot and click glowy ground indicator

Step 3: be put into a battle against before mentioned creature

Step 4: Kill creature

Step 5: return to guild

Step 6: "Soandso I see you were able to defeat the creature! And what is this you acquired some of its power during the battle!?!? Splended!"

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Let's be honest with ourselves. If Blue Mage is added it will be a shell of its former self. You will get all your spells through your class quests which will all run about like this...


Step 1: "Soandso we have an important mission for you. There is a terrible <insert creature here> ravaging the countryside and you must go and stop it!"

Step 2: Run to designated spot and click glowy ground indicator

Step 3: be put into a battle against before mentioned creature

Step 4: Kill creature

Step 5: return to guild

Step 6: "Soandso I see you were able to defeat the creature! And what is this you acquired some of its power during the battle!?!? Splended!"

It would have to be a specific kind of monster.

Bad Breath being the strongest as of now, most likely. Though how it would actually be effectual in battles against bosses is beyond me.

[Zarzak]

It would have to be a specific kind of monster.

Bad Breath being the strongest as of now, most likely. Though how it would actually be effectual in battles against bosses is beyond me.

I'm not sure how you misread that but to be clear. I'm saying every 5 levels your guild would send you after X monster that gives you Y skill.

Level 30? A giant crab that gives you shell shield

Level 35? A giant wasp that gives you pollon

Level 40? A giant buffalo that gives you head butt

Level 45? A magical clam that gives you water cannon

Level 50? A malboro that gives you bad breath

Tried to remember some skills from 11... Likely failed horribly



If you think it would be the pokemon collecting adventure 11 was.... Your sorely mistaken. Every class is perfectly balanced (far as they are concerned) with equal numbers of skills and very specific skillsets. They will not add in something with 5x the skills and free reign to combine them into anything you see fit.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

I'm not sure how you misread that but to be clear. I'm saying every 5 levels your guild would send you after X monster that gives you Y skill.

Level 30? A giant crab that gives you shell shield

Level 35? A giant wasp that gives you pollon

Level 40? A giant buffalo that gives you head butt

Level 45? A magical clam that gives you water cannon

Level 50? A malboro that gives you bad breath

Tried to remember some skills from 11... Likely failed horribly



Every class is perfectly balanced (far as they are concerned) with equal numbers of skills and very specific skillsets. They will not add in something with 5x the skills and free reign to combine them into anything you see fit.

What you stated is exactly what I was talking about. What I was referring to was specifically regarding Bad Breath, since it's usually a status attack and most end-game bosses are immune to status effects.

[Giantbane]

It will probably have some base skills. Mighty Guard, White Wind, etc, etc, etc depending on role. Those, as has been stated, would then be learned as normal Job quests at 30-50 that would involve fighting and getting hit by said skill.

In addition to that, BLU could be a very interesting tank class. The inspiration comes from FFX's Kimahri, a melee BLU. The core ability of the BLU would be "Learn". Learn would be a defensive cooldown, that would absorb and heavily mitigate (30-50%) the damage of the next enemy special move. Learn would do nothing against moves that weren't marked as being able to learn them. Learn gives you one charge of the ability you just absorbed. When charged, Learn changes to Unleash (or something like that), so you press the button again, and the BLU will use the ability back on the boss. IE a BLU would absorb Titan's table flip and then you could table flip back at him. Learn might also limit or prevent certain status effects, which would vary on a case by case basis (perhaps limiting the duration, or preventing some of the effects of something like bad breath).

It helps that there are also good defensively oriented blue magic skills to draw from. Mighty Guard or White Wind (would work like an AOE Second Wind), for instance.

By and large the base class doesn't matter that much, so this could easily be implemented as a Job based on an entirely new class, or as a 2nd job for the Lancer class (appropriate because kimahri also used lances and spears).

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

I'd say Beastmaster or the ever-mythologized Shepard to be the base class for BLU.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I could see Blue Mage as a special Soul Crystal that is not directly linked to any one class, but would grant access the Blue Magic skill list in exchange for loosing access to all Crossclass skills.

Heck, I think I'll write up a proposal in the Other Battle Systems forum.

[Zarzak]

What you stated is exactly what I was talking about. What I was referring to was specifically regarding Bad Breath, since it's usually a status attack and most end-game bosses are immune to status effects.

Eh... Quite a few skills are useless. Look at the number of skills BLM has most people likely don't even remember exist.

Bad breath would be pretty rocking for places it would work... Like speed runs 0_o