PLD dealing with these rediculous speedrun parties... A little help?

[Surian]

Hmmm, lets see. One question at a time.

1) Currently have the Atma weapon, stat wise it's equal to zenith so not super great. But there's no real quick improvement i can get :/

2) I dont actually shield lob everything. I shield lob one thing and run through a group flashing them on the way over to my intended tanking location.

3) I usually lose monsters about halfway into the fight.

4) Jobs? Anything really, some days it's a black mage, but i can blame that on not using quelling strikes. I've seen Dragoons do it too. I do look for Regen being up from WHM, but it rarely is when i lose it.

5) The Halone Combo. I've switched off to it at times, but as soon as i focus on one, the enmity on the others is going down too fast to keep up. So i basicly have to keep AoE'ing or i lose it.

6) It's possible my flash doesnt hit everything while i run through them, but i dont know. That seems a bit too simple.

[Codek]

Hmmm, lets see. One question at a time.

1) Currently have the Atma weapon, stat wise it's equal to zenith so not super great. But there's no real quick improvement i can get :/

2) I dont actually shield lob everything. I shield lob one thing and run through a group flashing them on the way over to my intended tanking location.

3) I usually lose monsters about halfway into the fight.

4) Jobs? Anything really, some days it's a black mage, but i can blame that on not using quelling strikes. I've seen Dragoons do it too. I do look for Regen being up from WHM, but it rarely is when i lose it.

5) The Halone Combo. I've switched off to it at times, but as soon as i focus on one, the enmity on the others is going down too fast to keep up. So i basicly have to keep AoE'ing or i lose it.

6) It's possible my flash doesnt hit everything while i run through them, but i dont know. That seems a bit too simple.

Ya, it definitely sounds like it's just a few outliers in the group of mobs that are just getting missed for what ever reason.They could just be late to the gathering so they may not feel the effects from the early flash or a missed hit while tagging the groups.


I'm going to assume that the group as a whole is getting well established on threat. I'd suggest that while your spamming flash, to cycle through the mobs and get an idea of where they all stand on the threat tables. If you can identify the ones that have DD's catching up on you, then you can easily isolate the issue and dump more threat into those specific ones. If you come across a situation where literally every mob in the pull is about to fall off of you, then those DD's are getting some serious procs early in the pull (or just flat out ignoring quelling strikes). God help you if this is the case...

If that doesn't help, that I'd say to just shield lob literally every mob along the pulling path. This will cut down on the need to flash while running and allow more flash spams while they are all grouped up. The difference is not much but I find it easier to search through targets for weak links when I can spam flash for a longer duration.

[Kaven]

2) I dont actually shield lob everything. I shield lob one thing and run through a group flashing them on the way over to my intended tanking location.

If you're having problems with losing threat on a few straggling mobs then you need to revise #2) , I shield lob pretty much everything and save my MP for spamming when we've grouped up all the mobs.

Potentially those 1 or 2 flashes you've spent when running through mobs are the flashes that will determine whether you hold aggro or not. Without sounding somewhat egotistical but running and shield lobbing each mob isn't a hard skill to master and the TP pool is less important than your MP pool when you come to a standstill with so many mobs on you.

After about 4-5 abilities (split them between mobs) you'll have enough MP for another Flash but I usually split FB / Riot Blade and then Flash, rinse repeat.

People have their own way of doing things, and there's always different variables
*Flash hits all mobs
*Healer Asuna/Leeche's Paralyze
*Split your combo between mobs
*FB/Riot Blade/Flash spam

Pretty much every way will work independently to the person and the group composition you're in.