Ultima Weapon....more like Ughtima Weapon

[Violyre]

Guess it's probably me then. I can avoid nearly anything, but all of my groups have had me in common. Guess I'll give up.

[Ghastly]

Guess it's probably me then. I can avoid nearly anything, but all of my groups have had me in common. Guess I'll give up.

Don't give up -_-
It took me 2 or 3 days to win..............

I died at least 15 times

I know I wasn't the problem, like you know you aren't the problem. It's just that to get 8 people to not die is really hard.
We're both in Cactuar, i'll try to add you later

[LunarEmerald]

There is a way, the same way people used when they first cleared it. From what I've read that battle requires everyone to follow a strategy flawlessly, and even use tank LB3 at certain point.

Nobody cleared it at 61. When the fight was introduced, most people were 80> with close to full myth.

[Eekiki]

Took some first timers through it myself this weekend. We were rather decked out, and managed to kill it with a full 25% echo (the first timers went in blind). I think the difficulty is fine as it is. Keep at it, you'll win eventually.

[Lyrinn]

Guess it's probably me then. I can avoid nearly anything, but all of my groups have had me in common. Guess I'll give up.

It could be you, but it could just as easily not be you. Keep in mind this is a team game; one player is not going to put out enough DPS to make up for three others. If you're running through Duty Finder, then - at the risk of sounding "elitist" - there are a lot of bad players out there. DRGs that stay only on rear and use full thrust combo only, BLMs that use only Fire I, BRDs that don't keep full uptime on buffs/DoTs, etc.

My personal advice: visit the DPS forum, see if you're performing the "optimal" rotations, make a PF group and ask for help, and keep trying, because if Ultima frustrates you, you'll want to uninstall when you get to Titan EX.

[Alukah]

Nobody cleared it at 61. When the fight was introduced, most people were 80> with close to full myth.

Uhm I never mentioned gear.

(I know OP did but my reply was pointing out the strategy needed)

[Xatsh]

IF you are dieing to the enrage mode it means your DDS (DPS) are just doing something really wrong. With 20% echo and a decent weapon they should be way above the required dmg to do the fight. At Ilvl 61 it might be hard, but Ilvl 80 was enough to beat twintania pre-echo. So the dds need to figure out what is up. Are they maximizing thier dmg, are using the correct combo rotation. are the blms using scathe as they run away. Are the healers throwing dots when they are not healing?

Them nerfing ultima will do nothing for people. Yea it gets them past Ultima, but the next phase of the game without echo will just wipe the floor with that group.

It is foolish that the devs refuse to allow parsers, but the problem is your dds. They need to try to find a way to increase dmg drastically, this is parsers main function. Without legally being able to use them.. it is harder to a dps problem but it is still required.

Fight is fine as it is. People just need to fix the rotation problems.

[Craiger]

Nobody cleared it at 61. When the fight was introduced, most people were 80> with close to full myth.

I have cleared it with everyone around 70, back when Ultima was new... The way we handled it, I'm sure we could've done it with all 61 too. Haven't tried it, and it might be very hard, but the minimum ilvl is just that, the "minimum" requirement, it doesn't mean it will be easy...

[Ruethryl]

Other common cause of failure is tanks faceplanting multiple times to defractive laser (or w/e the big pewpew is called) if their gear isn't very good. The part of the fight with the bits along the outside is a good time for a tank to die to it if they're not using the right CDs since you'll have ships dropping, bits pewpewing, and Ultima smacking you upside the head (Hallowed was always nice at that point if your gear wasn't so hot!)

SE does tend to low ball the ilvls though.. a tank in ilvl61 was more likely to come out ground meat at the other end of the fight. ^^;;

[Frisque]

Not sure if mentioned but minstrel ballad Ultima only needs to be cleared to unlock bcob savage. Pretty sure when things say "ultimate weapon" pre req they referring to last story fight against Ultima. Could be wrong... Hard to fact check on this phone