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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    They could charge a flat rate to access the stream for the event for those that can't go. Something like 60 dollars which include access to the streamed event and the digital swag just none of the physical items.
    Sure they could. Maybe they didn't think about it. Maybe they did, but wanted to see how the event went the first time before deciding something like that. Like see how many people try to buy tickets and such. Yes they've made fanfests for XI in the past, but XIV is a different game, and they may be unsure of the turnout and are testing the waters for this first run. Who knows honestly.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Sure they could. Maybe they didn't think about it. Maybe they did, but wanted to see how the event went the first time before deciding something like that. Like see how many people try to buy tickets and such. Yes they've made fanfests for XI in the past, but XIV is a different game, and they may be unsure of the turnout and are testing the waters for this first run. Who knows honestly.
    Yep, and with XI a few of them you only had to buy/register ticket to get access to in-game stuff - But not for XIV and as people love to say: "THIS IS NOT FFXI DON'T BRING ANYTHING ABOUT XI INTO THIS GAME!", even when what they did with XI is exactly what some people are requesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    The event is not unfair but locking in game items to a real life event is unfair. If that is fair then just open up the cash shop, because it all boils down to money.
    By the way.

    Those bomb earrings and cactaur earrings you no doubt got? That was linked to a real life event and if your server didn't beat it you wouldn't have gotten it.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    They are not the same. Cash shop paves the way for pay to win. And cats shop isn't exclusive, and can be used any time.

    The exclusive item itself isn't bought, can't be gotten any time, and doesn't affect game play in a way that gives person A an advantage in a dungeon over person B. It's given as a thank you by se.

    And my statement is not ignorant, it's just that in your eyes, you don't find it rude or hateful. I'm not even going and I find it very rude That people are being so "entitlement" argumentative about the items being exclusive and acting like a child that gets given anything they ask for by mummy.
    Cash shops are pay to win in free to play games. You're accusing me of comparing apples to oranges yet you're the one who's actually doing it. FFXIV borrows so heavily from WoW. They have a cash shop that is purely cosmetic yet you're covering your ears and shouting at the top of your lungs pretending like you can't hear us. Blizzard also sells virtual tickets to their events so everyone can obtain those event exclusive items.

    Even if they don't offer a virtual ticket they can still go the route of selling the items online only for the duration of the event.

    And for someone who claims this thread will change nothing, you sure are putting in a lot of effort expressing your opinion on the other side there.

    Also, quit saying that wanting equality is rude and disrespectful. You're the one being rude and disrespectful by making such ignorant claims.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    By the way.

    Those bomb earrings and cactaur earrings you no doubt got? That was linked to a real life event and if your server didn't beat it you wouldn't have gotten it.
    Apples to oranges. Those rewards were distributed server wide regardless if you attended the event or not.

    ...or are you using that as an example to support our case?
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  5. #155
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    God trying to type things without snapping is difficult. -.-

    You realise you basically keep calling me stupid. With your whole ignorance talk over and over.

    I like how we say "ffxi did it" and you people say "well bla bla bla this isn't ffxi" but then turn around and say "well blizzard does it this way" I'll say the same. This isn't blizzard. And if you wanna bring the "well they took a lot from wow/whatever argument. They take a lot from ffxi also. So please for the love of God stop using that argument.

    At this point I'm just going crazy trying not to snap and attack you.. I obviously won't see your end. Of it and you wo t see mine. Though I'm sure we'll both post more, I hope the devs will put out a post or have one of the Moderators jump in and give a. Final answer so this can stop.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    God trying to type things without snapping is difficult. -.-

    You realise you basically keep calling me stupid. With your whole ignorance talk over and over.

    I like how we say "ffxi did it" and you people say "well bla bla bla this isn't ffxi" but then turn around and say "well blizzard does it this way" I'll say the same. This isn't blizzard. And if you wanna bring the "well they took a lot from wow/whatever argument. They take a lot from ffxi also. So please for the love of God stop using that argument.

    At this point I'm just going crazy trying not to snap and attack you.. I obviously won't see your end. Of it and you wo t see mine. Though I'm sure we'll both post more, I hope the devs will put out a post or have one of the Moderators jump in and give a. Final answer so this can stop.
    Dude, end it there. For your own well being. Your fighting a self entitled battle. You might as well go into the lower class districts and plead how their abuse on the welfare system is extremely hindering. Same level of difficulty here. They're not going to care and I'm glad the tears from their end are so heavy. I'm going to enjoy the hell out of my items because I'm allegedly "Going just for that". Not my fault I got money, an advanced notice when this is happening so I can put an advance notice at my job to go, and oh yeah money. They want everything for a lot of less and/or nothing. See sig.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No, not likely. The items they give, assuming they do it like other companies, are not game affecting. Like pets or minions and the like. It's one of the benefits they give people who are willing to shell out and come to their event.

    My personal opinion, is also no. If it affected gameplay it would be a different story. But like the Murloc Suit I got for going to a Blizzcon one year, you can't get it anywhere else unless one of the original people who went to that Blizzcon still has the code unused(Assuming they stopped accepting the codes too).
    Just re-quote. If I can't make the event I accept not getting the item for attending the event. imo. *shrug*
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    We all pay the same monthly fee for this game and we want equal opportunity for these in game items
    Saying players have equal access to all the content is chocobo manure. I'm a casual player and as such almost all endgame gear/content is inaccessible to me. I'm won't spend 10+ hours a week raiding and running the same dungeons over and over. I also refuse to get caught up in that in game "you need to be here and this time everyweek" misery like I did in FFXI. A huge chunk of this games content is locked away from me. Should SE put Allagan armor up on the store for me to buy to put me on equal footing with the people who put the work in to earn this gear? No. What about people who work long hours, are drowning in schoolwork, can't play due to family, kids with limited playtime, ect. My answer is still No. If we are unwilling to make the sacrifice to obtain these items not only do we not get them, we don't deserve them. This fanfest item is no different.
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  9. #159
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    I live in the US east coast. The US convention is in Vegas. Even though the event is in the same country as I. It's out of my reach finically and logically. Frankly $120 is pretty steep on tickets so that doesn't help putting the convention into my grasp either.

    Showing the convention digitally is an option, but again it goes back to $120 bucks being pretty dang steep in price. However, $10-15 for an in game item to commemorate the convention that we can buy off the mog station would be reasonable, esp for the people that can't just drop $120-$1000 + on the whim, but want to celebrate or show support to the convention.

    7 Hells just donate the proceeds to breast cancer SE if you don't want mog station money from us. A lot of people would buy lots of things if they knew the funds went into research or helping others.
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    Last edited by Pinworms; 07-08-2014 at 02:16 AM.

  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    I like how we say "ffxi did it" and you people say "well bla bla bla this isn't ffxi" but then turn around and say "well blizzard does it this way" I'll say the same. This isn't blizzard. And if you wanna bring the "well they took a lot from wow/whatever argument. They take a lot from ffxi also. So please for the love of God stop using that argument.
    FFXI was restrictive, WoW is inclusive. Is there something wrong with wanting equal opportunity for everyone?

    And lol @ "I'm going crazy trying not to snap and attack you" when just a few posts ago you were accusing us of crying and getting all emotional.

    How about this!

    If you're going to the event and you don't care about the item, don't voice concern against our request. If you're not going to the event, don't voice concern against our request. I would like to hear from someone who is actually going to this event as to why they feel this item should be exclusive.

    Honestly this is all very similar to the whole gay marriage issue. It's like, it doesn't affect you in any way, so why does it matter if they get married? Does the item being available for everyone affect you in any way? No? So why do you care? Why are you here arguing that it should be for attendees only?

    Quote Originally Posted by Halisstra View Post
    Saying players have equal access to all the content is chocobo manure. I'm a casual player and as such almost all endgame gear/content is inaccessible to me.
    That would be a solid argument if content wasn't constantly nerfed and made more accessable to a wider variety of players with every patch.
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