Harsher Penalties for Tanks who Immediately Leave Duty Finder

[PetiteMalFleur]

felt pretty bad today was running Sunken City as a Tank and got to last section when I lost connection. Playing wired connection and just dropped. Was the first time running this properly and felt terrible for the rest of the party as we were going quite well I thought. Left them without a tank How easy is it though for another Tank to drop into the game though?

Trust my when I say anyone will take that queue. All one of them have to do is type "/fc need tank for lost city in progress 2/3" and they'll have a have a dozen people trying to queue in.

[ispano]

Trust my when I say anyone will take that queue. All one of them have to do is type "/fc need tank for lost city in progress 2/3" and they'll have a have a dozen people trying to queue in.

Note he said Sunken, as in Sunken Temple of Qarn, not Lost City.

[moudoka]

I have never bailed from any dungeon. I don't rage quit, as that screws the whole party. But I've had my fair share of healers and DPS rage quit over any slight. Got Dzmael for my low level, and our healer said "BRB" and quit. Sickens me how quickly people rage quit too. One wipe, and everyone wants to bail. Like they've never died before or something.

[Brill_]

I have never bailed from any dungeon. I don't rage quit, as that screws the whole party. But I've had my fair share of healers and DPS rage quit over any slight. Got Dzmael for my low level, and our healer said "BRB" and quit. Sickens me how quickly people rage quit too. One wipe, and everyone wants to bail. Like they've never died before or something.

Yep, people in this game can't tolerate failure for some reason. Seeing stuff in party finder like "1 fail = kick and blacklist" is ridiculous. I joined a Hauke Manor HM 0/3 in progress tonight on my warrior. 2 BLM for DPS, 1 in pretty much AF1 and there in a mix a ilvl60 and 70 gear. I had my doubts that we'd have enough DPS to do it, but I wasn't going to rage quit. A couple wipes at each boss, but we beat it.

[LetBloodline]

Yep, people in this game can't tolerate failure for some reason. Seeing stuff in party finder like "1 fail = kick and blacklist" is ridiculous. I joined a Hauke Manor HM 0/3 in progress tonight on my warrior. 2 BLM for DPS, 1 in pretty much AF1 and there in a mix a ilvl60 and 70 gear. I had my doubts that we'd have enough DPS to do it, but I wasn't going to rage quit. A couple wipes at each boss, but we beat it.

While it's true that someone is really a db not everyone is like that tanks to god =o

But while ppl should not be quickleave on DF since it's where new ppl get to learn i think that in PF you have the right to put the standards for your party and ppl who don't meet that standard should stop enter anyway and either put up a PF on their terms or go DF. Specially those fights where the fail of someone means likely whipe. It's a dog biting his tail. More times someone enter your PF for the kill and die miserably more you feel like being rude on PF to keep them away. More rude are PF notes, less likely they work the way intended and make someone want to break that

I'm now a fresh lv50 tank with AF plus good weapon/accessory(what i had, STR ones mostly =/) with low HP that need to build equip so i can't do big pulls. I don't go messing with PF, i just DF but i see how ppl ragequits only cuz he have to run the dungeon the normal way. Luckly usually it's a DPS so it's like istant replace

[fixitfelix]

Actually, I am wondering about an idea if you can do something like if anyone who joins a roulette they can get extra myth from being rewarded with a commendation an extra 10 or 15 myth(this can vary of course) from each person in the roulette who gives you a commendation.

If you leave early or within a certain time frame you must receive a commendation from another dungeon to be eligible again for myth by commendation, this can be applied to everyone. Myth by commendation is a optional reward to the already existing dungeon reward.

Don't keep people away from queue if anything get them back in queue and get them to redeem themselves. I don't know of any tank that would wanna leave and have to run ANOTHER dungeon to get his goodie status again. Someone leaves or is kicked out for bad behavior make them run it again to make up for it.

[Worm]

No I prefer harsher penalties for players that refuse to level tanking and healing classes. They need to add a lazy debuff *hairflip*

Do I really need to level a certain class I've played non-stop in previous MMOs because that class still can't get over the swollen head these stupid Dungeon Finder systems give them? Do I really need to go back to a class simply to be a good ambassador among all the mewling children who pick it?

This behavior doesn't even save time most of the time. It's just nothing more than entitled crap. Tanks act this way because they can get away with it. The idea that your average Duty Finder All-Star tank is going to spend his time instead doing high powered day trading because of increased penalties is a fantasy. He'll be there on slightly better behavior because it'll probably be the first time he's been held responsible for something his entire MMO career.

When it burns an honest tank that'll be unfortunate but much more than that it will curb a lot of ridiculous behavior out of people.

[Dyvid]

Yep, people in this game can't tolerate failure for some reason. Seeing stuff in party finder like "1 fail = kick and blacklist" is ridiculous. I joined a Hauke Manor HM 0/3 in progress tonight on my warrior. 2 BLM for DPS, 1 in pretty much AF1 and there in a mix a ilvl60 and 70 gear. I had my doubts that we'd have enough DPS to do it, but I wasn't going to rage quit. A couple wipes at each boss, but we beat it.

This is why I like running new dungeons on patch day. Nobody quits because we are actually learning the dungeon instead of watching video's and reading guides. Sure it took 3 tries on one boss in Tam-Tara HM but we actually talked about how to beat it.

[Huntington]

If a healer entered few seconds later you DID screw the DR of at least other 2 ppl that waited for it way longher then you so you DID deserved the penality

I don't see how I can ever predict or understand when a less played class is going to randomly join. I waited 30 seconds after the healer left and had things to do, I'm not obliged to wait 20 minutes so some low level people can finish the dungeon. I wasn't going to quit to start off, and I said farewell and wished them luck before I left and still got a penalty. I was not the first person to leave, and should not have been penalized for making someone wait ten more minutes in the next search because the DPS quene isn't all that bad anymore.

[CheeseBurguer]

As a tank, I used to abandon The Lost City of Amdapor, Pharos Sirius... but now no more, now I am a good guy lol;;
reason I used to abandon, was that, I was traumatized of going to the end and fail the dungeon by time limit! or taking so long to beat too.
its easy to find bad groups at DF, and I would rather had 30 min penalty then try it and waste my time.

Now imagine every tank doing this, and getting this super penality you all are talking about, that means less tanks queueing for DF, which means even more time queue for other classes!!!!
So you want a better punishment on tanks, but you "OP" and supporters, are not looking at the big picture in this catastrophic scenario. Just saying.