Quote Originally Posted by Verranicus View Post
OP got RNG'd. Stop whining.

Actually, it's a bit more complex. I ran Levi EX for well over a hundred wins with farm parties set up in the Party Finder. Everyone called their loot (mine being the mount), and it was clearly stated it would be a professional farm party. A few hours go by, we have plenty of wins - and the party members swap in and out depending on if people get what they want or have to go or whatnot. About 30 minutes before I planned on leaving, the mount finally dropped. I ask for every to leave as I was the only one who claimed it as my loot just to be fair, and the Dragoon who was dead for the majority of the fight remained. I let four minutes elapse, and out of fear for it hitting the floor I rolled on it. Turned out he remained AFK for whatever reason but happened to roll on the mount, won it, proceeded to revive and then exit the instance. He left the party. Not to mention he also won the achievement that run, too.

Everything in this game is obtainable through a grind or effort. Atmas will eventually drop for you, it's not chance. It will happen. The Warlion or Warbear mount will be given to you when you fulfill the requirements. But then you have things that conflict with those who have OCD in collecting - forcing them to spend hours upon hours of grinding only for a single player to have control on whether or not to ruin that. And that's with communication and parties set-up. It's only LOGICAL to add the primal mounts to the achievement list, as every other mount is there as well if not found through a quest. The new Warsteeds, the Warbear/lion, and the Golden Magiteck. Adding them to the achievement list will not create a loss in EX primal runs, but rather it may even increase them as it adds even more of an incentive to run and clear them. The primal mounts should be something that shows how dedicated a player can be through withstanding numerous victories in the primal battles, not for when that random player looks back and says, "Oh, I got this for that one time I paid for a Titan EX win".

If everything else in this game were like that, it'd be more acceptable. But when everything else has an endpoint or eventual acquisition, it's pretty wonky that something like this is locked behind not only RNG itself, but other players' willingness over extremely extended periods of time. People for this 'petition' aren't asking for hand-outs, we're not looking for easy acquisition alternatives. We're just looking for something to show for our dedication in running (possibly) over 500 times a single primal (extreme, mind you) rather than run it over 500 times just to be teased when someone ninja lots you. Anyone who thinks that is a hand-out just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. And for anyone who wants to gloat with their primal mounts or remain 'special'...who said you still wouldn't be? Not everyone will have the time and patience to run 100, 200, or even 500 runs of a single Primal spread over the five primals. Throw in a minion or title down the road and it'll fall in line with everything else - not that anyone seems to have a problem with those, so why have a problem with this?