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  1. #41
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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by 65shion View Post
    To everyone saying BLM is the hardest to master. Let me laugh.
    Im sure you have 251 piety and time mana ticks accordingly to make UI to AF with Fire III manaless and be full mp. Yes, im sure, because out of 100 BLM, maybe 1 does it but who knows, maybe you guys are the exception Also, we are talking endgame here, 90 doesn't matter one bit.
    Wait, so you're laughing at the notion that BLM is even hard to play but then claim that you only see 1 out of 100 blms doing it right?
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    lol @ all the haters coming into the blm/smn thread to hate. Can't wait to out dps our static mnk in T8 while i aetherially manipulate all over his face. mmmmm taste that blm flavor.
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    Imo the proposed buffs (and def cd nerf) sound about perfect, Manawall should perhaps have been nerfed to 30s, rather than 20s, but that's my only nit-pick.

    I'd glad they did not simply make BLM easier to move and maintain DPS.

    Keeping skill level and knowledge of a battle highly important.
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  4. #44
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    Blm is not "hard"
    Just your rant about blm getting buff, mellee should get one, again why?
    Monk and Dragoon and obviously Bard have uptime vs spell speed so very few great blm's will do more single target damage.
    True perhaps this buff calculations will have to be made as blm may be closer damage wise
    I would even wager you have not played blm that much.
    This thread was about blm buff not about whiny mellee who want a buff because they cannot optimize their rotations
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    Quote Originally Posted by 65shion View Post
    Just absurd. The easiest class to play and now probably the one dealing most dps with requiem except, in some fights, monk. 108 mnk here with blm, brd and smn 108 aswell in my static, so i know what im talking about
    If your a Monk and your statics BLM is on par with you currently for T8 etc, your playing your Monk very poorly.

    Quote Originally Posted by 65shion View Post
    As blms, they scale better than other classes with gear.
    What a total load of garbage, Monks scale far better with gear than BLM.

    A Monk upgrading from an i95 - i110 weapon has a far greater dps gain than a BLM upgrading their weapon.
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 07-05-2014 at 01:48 AM.

  6. #46
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    It is no surprise that the melee come crying in this thread. I for one am very glad that with these buffs. I went SMN for a while because it was more DPS in all content but Turn 4 of the 1st coil of Bahamuth. I also think SMN is a lot easier to get high DPS. I'm truly sorry, but those who say that BLM is probably the easiest class, don't know what they are talking about. Literally 1 mistake in your rotation as a BLM can cost you greatly. You have no room for error. This is less so on other classes. I have noticed that as a BLM when you fuck up, there is no real way to get your DPS back up unless the RNG Gods are upon you. Finally, I think SE have a better notion of the class than some melee in this thread. BLM will by no means be King, so stop crying.
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    Last edited by ViviAnimus; 07-05-2014 at 02:42 AM.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    If your a Monk and your statics BLM is on par with you currently for T8 etc, your playing your Monk very poorly.



    What a total load of garbage, Monks scale far better with gear than BLM.

    A Monk upgrading from an i95 - i110 weapon has a far greater dps gain than a BLM upgrading their weapon.
    I said in some fights. As MNK i do more dps on t6-7-8-9 (pre heavenfall), even with x2 requiem. Also im talking about what will happen with this 36 potency buff, not atm.Please read.

    I don't see what load of garbage u mean there. Maths are maths, and math says any class have 80% dmg, hence they scale better. Also, I said MNK along with BLM scale better than other classes in my post, maybe you wanted to be the smartass type quoting bits when i've been discussing this in quite a few posts. Double clap for you, sir/miss.

    Just wanted to give my opinion and since many variables around the different people talking here are present (mostly regarding endgame), this won't go anywhere.
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    Last edited by 65shion; 07-05-2014 at 02:39 AM.

  8. #48
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    You should do more DPS on pretty much every single encounter but T4 as a monk. where do you get this 80% damage from? An increase of 20 potency on 4 attacks is by no means an 80% increase of damage. Or do you mean something else?
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    To all the blms who are upset about the potency only change - it's exactly what I asked for and I love it. Good job SE you got it 1000.15% right if blms got a mobility change, it would of made little difference to the blms who currently do coils and play it well. The problem with blm wasn't moving and casting (thats a skill issue) it was our numbers couldnt keep up, period. I could post a perfect parse on t8 and still barely get over 430, high end monks get 470-500 and high end dragoons get 450-480, also on fights like turn 9 the gap is smaller melees get hurt by mobility too (flanking etc) they make up for this by the ability to play their jobs.

    I've told this to many blms and some have listened, others have denied it... if you want to do better damage then practice, practice, practice... queue up for titan ex and practice casting while moving, you know those double plumes? you can cast a blizzard 3 in between those, land it and still manage to dodge both sets, make it a point to be mobile and cast.

    The only thing mobility changes would have done was decrease the gap between poor blm players and good blm players, and make okay blms players equal to good blms players... I'm very happy they decided to reward good play.
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    Last edited by Xisin; 07-05-2014 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViviAnimus View Post
    You should do more DPS on pretty much every single encounter but T4 as a monk. where do you get this 80% damage from? An increase of 20 potency on 4 attacks is by no means an 80% increase of damage. Or do you mean something else?
    80% from Astral Fire III. Fire III potency 220>240 +80% 396 -> 432.

    Anyways im off, just wanted to point out my opinion based on my set mate BLM in full bis and his dps. Never was much of a forum poster hehe.
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