Private rooms and being kicked from an FC

[TomTom1968]

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude. Don't join just any random FC, get to know the people, set ranks on who can even create a personal room. People should prove themselves to not be a selfish monster/troll before being allowed to participate. They are trying to foster a feeling of community and people working together with a shared purpose of accomplishing group and separate goals, but together as a team.

People also need to quit speculating, I'm certain many of these things will be available when personal housing comes out but don't give up on the community before they have a chance to try and make it happen.

Do you know me? Don't think so so please don't make assumptions. I am in a grown FC and know the people there since Release. I also help my FC with crafts, donations, company and advice for new players.

But what has my FC to do with MY choccobo? It's not a groupie serving the FC. I ride it and use it in battle. We have a mid size house and 2 patches for Gardening which are mainly used for experiments and breeding plants from the few in our FC who are interested in it. So after the patch we tell them "go away, we need the room for Choccobo feeding seeds" or what? And we tell half of the FC "Sorry, only enough Food for 50% of the FC because we don't have a big house so our space is limited"? I am all in for FC features that bring people together. But neither is everybody interested in Gardening nor in Choccobo raise. Having to use your Garden space for such things is a weak design on SE's side.

Just like they released Coil before CT and Sight seeing logs before the Weather NPC was introduced, this is yet another example of implementing things in a wrong order.

[Nephera]

These "Get to know them" or "invite people you trust" posts remind me of the many stories of someone working their way up the trust chain so they could disband the guild and liquidate guild assets in EVE and other games.

[LalaRu]

These "Get to know them" or "invite people you trust" posts remind me of the many stories of someone working their way up the trust chain so they could disband the guild and liquidate guild assets in EVE and other games.

That is called backstabbing. Something that can happen on everything.

[zPanda]

Easy solution for this would be: If you are kicked from a FC, your personal room is saved in a "limbo" state. If you join another FC with a house, you can restore that room from "limbo" in it's original state with no charge.

[KillyBamp]

I was surprised when SE announced that the personal rooms were going to be attached to the FC housing.
I think a much better idea would have been to link them to the inns at each city, like penthouse suites at hotels occupied by celebs etc. You have to be lvl50 to obtain one, by that point in the game we've reached Eorzean VIP status.
No FC related drama, job done.

[Nephera]

Easy solution for this would be: If you are kicked from a FC, your personal room is saved in a "limbo" state. If you join another FC with a house, you can restore that room from "limbo" in it's original state with no charge.

Basically this is the solution.

Edit: well, quickest solution.

[Ronyx]

I guess the Fc master will be able to empty someones room and kick that person and thats its totally valid. If for any reason you deserve to be kicked then so be it. The FC master have all the right to kick people they dont want to. So be a good boy/girl.

[KaiKatzchen]

This is all is says in the patch notes:

- Vacating Private Chambers
Players must be on free company property in order to vacate their private chambers. Moreover, private chambers must be vacated in order to leave a free company.
* Gil used to purchase private chambers will not be refunded.
* All furnishings must be removed before vacating private chambers.

So the only useful information we got is if you leave your FC, you do not get your gil back. So I'm guessing if you get kicked you will not get a refund either.

So we still don't know:

1) Can a member be kicked who has a private room w/furnishings, if FC's have a valid reason for wanting to kick?

2) If they can't be kicked without clearing out the room and they refuse can they be reported and will the GM's actually do something?

3) If they can be kicked without clearing out the room what happens to the items?

and a new 4...

4) It says they have to be on property... if so do they have to be on property to kick them?

...this is more so sounding like the bad design of the LS's in 1.0, where you basically had to be standing in front of the person to add/kick them to the LS. We had one person who needed to be kicked and they were running around the world, hiding and talking in LS, refusing to come out. What a hassle.

[Menriq]

If only they had a PTR to test these changes for ourselves.

[dekarguy]

I guess we'll know in 24 hours, if anyone is willing to spend 300k gil then attempt to get kicked from an FC