Am I at a disadvantage

[ruskie]

No you are not at a disatvantage. They have made an incredibly well done user experience with the controller. It takes me prob a second or so to place a LB - usually it's more waiting if the tank just moved or such than anything else. Chances are you are already looking at the right spot anyway so the move is a tiny deal.

As for 16 slots... You do need to consider if you rely on a rotation on how to well place it - why I tend to readjust my crossbar once I get access to all skills and evaluate when and how I'll need each. Important stuff on face buttons, less important stuff on d-pad, primary skills on first bar(healing, main single target dps skills), less important on second(AoE dsp stuff, healer dps skills, support skills(bard songs)).


> awkward casting and moving simultaneously,
No, not really. Awkward only for the skills that are on the d-pad side of things in a normal left controlls movement, right camera setup. So you still have access to 8 skills you have that many - I tend to assign the face buttons to the most important skills and all secondaries(usually damage CDs) to the d-pad buttons...


> can't use parsers,
Prohibited either way so irrelevant in this discussion.

> some classes you're gonna want more than 16 skills available so switching bars can be clunky,
Switching is fast other than that at times something get's stuck or a slight delay - so far both bard and whm have no issues with 2x16 setup, with sch/smn I have a third bar for pet placement - but again nothing game braking

> you're gonna want a smartphone or laptop next to you for teamspeak/mumble or similar,
Either this or use ps4 chat if you can find a group of people that are all on PS4.

> placing your pets/shadowflare/sacredsoil etc. involves changing camera angles and stuff instead of clicking on the floor,
PS4 has a touchpad that can be used to do this but it takes an insiginifcant time anyway once you get used to it(test in a few times and you'll see), need to place it under you and your team - just look straight down, place it anywhere else you just look there and slightly adjust the angle until perfect.

> and obviously its gonna take ages if you actually need to type something.
Only reason you should hook a usb keyboard it your PS4 - typing

I have played on PS3 and now on PS4 - when you get used to it you will be on par with the rest, there's a few forum posts about how to optimize your layouts and stuff. Like have shared and not shared crossbars for weapon skills and only load the non shared bars when you draw your weapon and a few other suggestions ideas. With the 2.5s global cooldown you have more than enough time to switch bars and so on.

My main issues in Bard is that I will run out of TP usually very fast so it certainly isn't slowing me down game wise.

[Naryoril]

> you're gonna want a smartphone or laptop next to you for teamspeak/mumble or similar,
Either this or use ps4 chat if you can find a group of people that are all on PS4.

> and obviously its gonna take ages if you actually need to type something.
Only reason you should hook a usb keyboard it your PS4 - typing

I play on PC and stopped playing after patch 2.1. With the PS4 release a bunch of friends started playing it on the PS4 (what else would they play on that console ) so i resubbed.
The chat was an issue, but we found a solution that works for us: The PSN party chat works cross platform between PS4 and the Vita. So i have a Vita lying next to me with a headset with an integrated mic hooked up and we chat like this. I just need to remember to touch the vita's touchscreen from time to time so it doesn't go into standby and disconnects me


About the typing: Afaik you can hook up your tablet or smartphone somehow and use that to type too, at least for apple products, i don't know about Android or Windows Phones.