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    Can someone got a dev's thoughts on needing for anything but your class or removing the need button? I don't have enough cheese for the whinefest
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    Lower level dungeon gear is a nice way to get extra GC seals while doing roulette. Not to mention that some of it can actually be sold for decent gil at the MB.

    Not to mention that some of us also want the stuff for glamours.

    So no, while stuff is useful for me I'll keep using Need for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Can someone got a dev's thoughts on needing for anything but your class or removing the need button? I don't have enough cheese for the whinefest
    I honesty dont think they will voice their opinion as they probably never read this section in the first place.If they did i would be happy to know where they stand on things.
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    So basically a selfish person complaining that other people are selfish.



    okay...
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddes View Post
    So basically a selfish person complaining that other people are selfish.



    okay...
    Any one who plays this game with any number of dungeon equips is greedy and selfish. Also yes. if you even have the slightest bit of wanting something your selfish.
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    lol, if you want the gear so badly then there's a simple answer; be that class so you can Need on it. You don't get to decide how other people handle their items or their gaming lifestyle. If you choose to exp all your classes at the same time in the same level ranges, that's your choice... other people do things their own way. If they want to use their gear, sell it, trade for seals or probably eventually desynth it for materials, that's their right. You could also always try asking politely if they wouldn't mind Greeding rather than Needing to give you a better shot. But just because you don't like what they do with their stuff doesn't mean your demands are any more worthy.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxidine View Post
    Any one who plays this game with any number of dungeon equips is greedy and selfish. Also yes. if you even have the slightest bit of wanting something your selfish.
    Congratulations, by stating that everyone (by definition including you) is inherently selfish you just added more than enough hypocripsy to defeat your own point.

    Also you also stat that as soon as anyone gets even 1 gear from coil they should just cancel their sub now since it would be selfish for then to continue on playing and we can't have that now can we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Congratulations, by stating that everyone (by definition including you) is inherently selfish you just added more than enough hypocripsy to defeat your own point.

    Also you also stat that as soon as anyone gets even 1 gear from coil they should just cancel their sub now since it would be selfish for then to continue on playing and we can't have that now can we?
    1. being greedy or selfish dose not void the point and if you forgot what that point was then let me recap for you
    point:
    To removed the ability for players X levels above equipment to NEED it.

    2. if people ditched as soon as they got a single shred of armor they would miss out on other possible chance's
    3. There are other reasons for people to do dungeons/raids than equipment
    4. your own post contradicts your own arguments multiple times and even includes your self in to the hypocrisy.

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    Im out of comments for today so ill comment when i can.
    And its player level not Item level, also this does not STOP you from rolling just stops you from rolling need to make it more fair to lower levels.
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    Last edited by Oxidine; 07-04-2014 at 09:00 AM. Reason: Out of Comments and its really annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxidine View Post
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    I'm already being a hypocrite by posting in thread full of 'em. No sence try thing to fix it since SE's and most MMO's fanbases rival Sonic in frequency of comparing about any change to anything at all ever.

    Even if your proposed option were to be implemented. All it would do is have people come in with worse gear to abuse the system. So the only reasonable solution would be removing the ability to need at all, regardless of level.

    But what do you care? You see everybody who disagrees with you as strawmen and hypocrites, getting SE to close the thread would be easier then convince you that what you're suggesting is a bad idea.
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 07-04-2014 at 07:48 AM.

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    It's funny to see this topic keep coming up with people like the OP acting like they only get one chance at drops. Instead of posting here and then wasting time replying and keeping up with it, just run the dungeon again. Let's be real; even if what you are asking for is implemented, you still have to deal with RNG and you still might have to run a dungeon multiple times to get what you want even if no one rolls against you. If all you want is to get gear in as few runs as possible, just be honest about it instead of trying to pin the blame on 50s who have the right to roll need just as much as you do.
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