Fake experienced people in coil 2?

[Verranicus]

If every Coil group wants experienced people only, how are new people going to get experienced? Have fun when a huge chunk of our "experienced" raiders eventually burn out and you're left with the people who excluded before.

[Verranicus]

There needs to be a way to set a level of experience for party finder groups. The server should record how far you've been in a fight (percentage) and then allow a party leader to select a level of experience for the fight based on this. If you want only people with experience of phase 4 or better in your T7 group you could set it to 35% or even 20% if you want people who are close to a clear.

This is a terrible idea and would make the game an elitist hell akin to when Gear Score first became a thing in WOTLK World of Warcraft.

[Edli]

If every Coil group wants experienced people only, how are new people going to get experienced?

Learning parties. What's wrong with that? I've seen almost daily on my server learning parties for coil and if you don't see one, make one.

[SarcasmMisser]

If every Coil group wants experienced people only, how are new people going to get experienced?

No one was experienced when I learned coil.

[Kimikryo]

It is cute, how people demand to have it cleared at least once.
Or check "Que" with Ifrit.

Mercenary runs? anyone?
I haven't cleared Titan Ex yet. I will join farm groups without shame. Why? Because I know what is going to happen and when it is going to happen. I can play MONK keeping full rotation on back and flank because I know when it is save to do so.
Often those party leaders would step in every plume, fail to evade landslides or fail at the add phase.

It is your right to be annoyed if some "lulz lez doo zis" people join. But don't group everyone that doesn't have the experience you expect, with those annoying trolls.

[Xenor]

This is a terrible idea and would make the game an elitist hell akin to when Gear Score first became a thing in WOTLK World of Warcraft.

How is it terrible? At the end of the day if you can't be honest with a group then someone needs to make the choice about you joining for you and that should be the party leader.

If you have only seen 50% of the fight then surely you shouldn't be joining phase 3+ fights until you actually see that phase. It's called progression.

I think it would lead to more people giving you a chance because right now all you can prove is if someone has won before or not. Some of those win only groups may turn into phase 4+ groups if they could be sure you have that level of experience.

[Eekiki]

It's not a big deal. Everybody lies and what not. XD

This is why humanity is doomed.

[DeadRiser]

I think it's bad to lie about experience. That's grounds for kicking. Dishonest people shouldn't get any leeway.

Right? Farming Garuda party couple months back and we get a new person.
New person dies. Repeatedly
Mount drops.
I roll a 96.
New person who died numerous times and never beat Garuda extreme before gets a free win and a free mount.
She beat me with a 98 >.>

[Surian]

People can be accustomed to running things diffirently. It doesnt make them inexperienced or bad.


I remember running Amdapor Keep back when that was popular atleast 50 times as a Paladin and probably another 40 times across diffirent classes/roles, but every 5-6 runs i'd get shouted at and called names, or even a liar for saying i did it before, because i pulled the first boss to the same place i've always pulled it to, but the party i got didnt agree with it and wanted me to stand somewhere else. Not to mention the one-two times someone went "Why didnt you take the big golem, you noob? Everyone always stuns it!" when i have never ever had anyone do that before.

Or a bit more relevant, Garuda EX when we agreed upon a NW-SE positioning instead of the NE-SW that the "video" handled.

Just because one person videotapes a fight in one specific way doesnt mean that it has to be fought exactly like that. There's way too many variables. The power of your DD party members, the type of healer you got, the type of tank, their ilvls, their HP pools.

Heck, i remember doing a random pickup shout for a speedrun, i pull the monsters i normally pull, the healer isnt paying attention and we wipe. It happens. Following that the two DPS disband and figure it's a good idea to shout for a good 2 hours in Mor Dhona about how we must have bought our relics and what absolute noobs we must be.

Remember:

1) Mistakes happen. No reason to get upset over it.

2) Someone can easily have cleared it before, but not have enough experience to reliably do it again due to diffirent party members, diffirent types of party members, diffirent powerlevels, etc.

3) And lets not forget, scripted fights like titan are one thing, but most things can be pretty random. You could be stuck in the wrong place when the wrong attack triggers.

4) Mistakes happen...

[Moriix]

People lie about who they are , you think they won't when its come to a fight experience ?! .