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  1. #11
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Well OP... all your 9 jobs have the weathered weapon or tidal wave weapon already?

    Or do you think your RNG is so good, you can get 9x Ramuh weapons?

    Or even so, will you be contented with 9x Ramuh/Tidal Wave weapons?

    I would probably get as much Gerolt weapon as I can to get the jobs that I play outside my main such as PLD WAR WHM and use the extra sands available to upgrade them to i110 weapon and BiS gear pieces.

    Remember that Gerolt's weapon remains the sole source of i110 weapons. Of course you have the HA weapon, but that is getting to to drop, and you having the priority to loot it in your raid.

    And even so, assuming that you are only keen in HA weapons, gearing all 9 jobs for all members requires 9x8=72 weapons which 72 weeks = 18 months for this to happen. It's not going to happen. So your extra UAT and stuff from CT etc that aims to cater to the casuals actually cater to the end game raider's wants too.

    Of course if you don't intent to play any other jobs other than you main, of course you'd find CT et al boring. But I believe a lot of people would be more than happy to have them.

    And no, don't tell me about Novus. I don't want to get 9 Novus, thank you.
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    Monkey Nutz
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    I'm not even sure what you're mad about. To me it sounds like you're upset that the UAT that drop from CT2 will be of no use to you. Honestly that gives you a huge advantage because so many of the players running that content are going to want the UAT, leaving you less competition to lot on whatever armor pieces you might want. If you don't want those either, then I guess just don't bother with CT2 at all.
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  3. #13
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Nothing wrong when people want the best items for beating the hardest content. But when they come up and say "others shouldn't get it because they are not as dedicated as I am" I can only laugh. How can it be your concern how other players are equipped? Be glad if the people you meet in regular dungeons are well equipped.
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    Basuh Shee
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    CT is just useless for progressgroups t7+. I dont't mind UAT dropping for everybody, but why the heck doesn't CT2 at least offers such players "more"? For example:
    - how about making CT2 gear also upgradable
    - CT2 drops a stack of a new and better bufffood/potions
    - make UAT etc. exchangeable against oil or sand

    as the weapon discussion:
    you can get novus, it is open for everyone. you can get levi ex 100ilvl. ramuh 100ilvl weapons AND if you still cant get ANY of those? you simply just don't deserve them and have to practise MORE, just like Titan ex and ifirt ex was a breaking stone for some players.
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  5. #15
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    Basuh Shee
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    to the elite discussion:
    it's true, as a monk it bothers me, that every player, even the baddest of the bad, getting BiS since you only need earings, ring and head for second coil t6... and t6 is even easier than t5. CT2 going step by step dropping UAT---->oil----->sand will just be useless. after that long weeks you can put the sand up your arse...and t10 is long long long long long away. it feels like a 14 year old thrown back in kindergarten. sad to say, but FFxiv is lowering difficulty with every patch, i love the game, but that suck to me. instead of challenging dungeons they lower difficulty on existing once (pharos sirius etc.). there sooo many mmo's out there, why not adapting some mechanics? bronze, silver, gold for instance runs, etc. In my oppinion there should always be some loot just outside your grasp, to motivate you do better, FFxiv is putting everyone at same ilvl, ignoring how well you play.
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  6. #16
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    It is always like that. When you are on top of things, you ALWAYS get your stuff in a harder way than the rest who follows. When the Game (2.0) was released, it was work to get Darklight equip running Castrum day for day. Nowadays when you hit 50, you are decked in Darklight/Myth/CT 2 weeks later.

    When you were first in Coil 1 you had a very hard time dealing with original Twisters, nowadays it is much easier. There are more examples but you should get the idea.

    I did the Grind from Zenith -> Animus and now to Novus. I am sure, in a Year, you will just buy the weapon for Tomes or get it much quicker than it is possible today. At the end of the day, only your speed and your skill counts. You only do what you want to do and what others do or get really shouldn't be worth more than a moment to rant about it. And you know best what you have done and you can remain proud about having it done the hard way.
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  7. #17
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basuh View Post
    to the elite discussion:
    it's true, as a monk it bothers me, that every player, even the baddest of the bad, getting BiS since you only need earings, ring and head for second coil t6... and t6 is even easier than t5. CT2 going step by step dropping UAT---->oil----->sand will just be useless. after that long weeks you can put the sand up your arse...and t10 is long long long long long away. it feels like a 14 year old thrown back in kindergarten. sad to say, but FFxiv is lowering difficulty with every patch, i love the game, but that suck to me. instead of challenging dungeons they lower difficulty on existing once (pharos sirius etc.). there sooo many mmo's out there, why not adapting some mechanics? bronze, silver, gold for instance runs, etc. In my oppinion there should always be some loot just outside your grasp, to motivate you do better, FFxiv is putting everyone at same ilvl, ignoring how well you play.
    Well, loot is definitely something satisfying, but if you are talking about being elite, how about trying gunning for server first and world firsts/top 10?

    Coil 2 Brutal Mode is coming in 2.3. Will your team be the server first/world first to beat them?

    Loot is just loot, it gets outdated as time pass. You may be one of the first few to get the HA weapon and feels special parading with it at Mor Dhona but that special feeling will fade when more people clears coil and gets the weapon and gears, like T9 tank chests which is getting more and more common on my server.

    If you want something really special, aim to defeat BG. You have a chance to do it next week when 2.3 comes. Be the first to beat Brutal Coil and Yoshida will sing praise of your team and recognize that to be a member of your FC is a prestige/social status (no pun intended to BG, they earned that attention from Yoshida).

    Loot will get replaced and fade over time. World records and fame and the prestige being one the top of the top will not.
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  8. #18
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    Archer Lv 50
    CT is just useless for progressgroups t7+. I dont't mind UAT dropping for everybody, but why the heck doesn't CT2 at least offers such players "more"?
    I hate checking out profiles, but there is plenty for your WAR to gain out of CT2. Not sure how it would be "useless" to you. Surely you have other classes that would benefit from i100 gear apart from that too? What you're effectively asking for is welfare handouts by being able to trade UAT and items you don't have an immediate use for.

    it's true, as a monk it bothers me, that every player, even the baddest of the bad, getting BiS since you only need earings, ring and head for second coil t6
    LOL. It bothers you that people beat T6?! I think I've read enough now.
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  9. #19
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basuh View Post
    to the elite discussion:
    it's true, as a monk it bothers me, that every player, even the baddest of the bad, getting BiS since you only need earings, ring and head for second coil t6...
    If they drop :S Only seen MNK belt from t6, ring from t7 >.< Too much caster lewt!
    Also if you don't do second coil even clearing t9 you will never have BiS. Which is, iff you feel the need to, have what non coilers wont have.

    Positive many forget is that if you lose a member of your static, 2.3 will make it easier to get a new member geared to whichever turn you are on. Also, for example, you are stuck on t8 DPS check your party can gear up a bit more outside of coil to help breaking that.
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  10. #20
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    Basuh Shee
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    just saying: ffxiv doesn't really reward good players and is getting less and less challenging, since so few can even beat the content. wildstar is much harder and the desingers don't lower difficulty.
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