Regarding the Atmas, yes, another one of those.

[Renik]

Welcome to the genre. Also, fun is a relative term...I don't do Coil or Ex primals and I'm still having fun. I'm also the type of person who enjoys grinds, though I won't sit here and defend the Atma grind. If you're so unhappy then...I don't know, stop playing? ^^; Perhaps MMOs simply aren't for you and there's nothing wrong with that.

don't cut the sentence, the other part is important to understand my point <.<

Grind = good, boring grind = bad, grind must be fun or at least rewarding, in this game it's just annoying and the reward is useless.

[Vahlnir]

don't cut the sentence, the other part is important to understand my point <.<

Grind = good, boring grind = bad, grind must be fun or at least rewarding, in this game it's just annoying and the reward is useless.

I cut it off because I couldn't fit the rest with what wanted to say, and the rest of your post really wasn't much different...Some people enjoy certain content, others don't. To each their own. The Atma grind sucks, I never really questioned that even as I was doing it. I won't judge you for not liking it or other aspects of the game, so I made what I thought was a good suggestion. Why stick around if you're not happy with how things are?

[Renik]

Why stick around if you're not happy with how things are?

Mostly because of the social aspect of the game, but if i'm still paying it, it's just because i'm seeing changes, no one suspected something like atma farming could happen in this game before the 2.1 update.

As you said fun is a relative term, well, i have fun playing easy and hard content with others in open world, and soloing hard content in instances, looks like SE is working to satisfy my tastes, a provably others'.