WAR MT + PLD OT vs. PLD MT + WAR OT in terms of DPS

[The_Badger]

Your parses don't seem to reflect the damage a PLD will gain with the SE debuff, that's 11% damage missing (something like 11.5% if you want to get anal, iirc), which is also stated in the first post linked. That would set the parses at nearly equal, but I also think that SE > BB combos is higher damage over all because you lose SE debuff on a full combo going SE > BB > BB. I'll also add that your data points seem to be fairly small, RNG could have easily skewed the data and we don't know if you cherry picked the best and worse.

SE wasn't used for either WAR or PLD in the second set, which is more accurate as both are using i90 weapons as opposed to the first set where PLD had i95 vs WAR i90, so the point is moot, as they'd both gain from adding SE in the mix. The first set of tests, where SE was used, the PLD has a weapon advantage and Circle of Scorn was hitting two dummies due to poor positioning, giving even more of an advantage yet WAR still won every test. The second set of tests are more accurate as both have identical gear and both using i90 weapons and CoS only hit one dummy. I encourage you to read the posts and methodology instead of just glancing at the numbers.

I've parsed it many times and posted quite a decent sample size. I have more results than are posted, but it's just not necessary to post more as the results are very consistent. If you doubt my findings run the same tests yourself and post results to compare. The results are not RNG and I have no bias toward either class as I play and enjoy both equally. So no, these aren't cherry picked and the tests are easy to replicate. Feel free to dispute my findings but back it up with actual numbers or tests instead of just guessing or hypothesizing. This is the problem with this topic, almost no one posts any actual results and just guess this or that and claim this and that.

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[Skull_Angel]

I've parsed it many times and posted quite a decent sample size. I have more results than are posted, but it's just not necessary to post more as the results are very consistent. If you doubt my findings run the same tests yourself and post results to compare. The results are not RNG and I have no bias toward either class as I play and enjoy both equally. So no, these aren't cherry picked and the tests are easy to replicate. Feel free to dispute my findings but back it up with actual numbers or tests instead of just guessing or hypothesizing. This is the problem with this topic, almost no one posts any actual results and just guess this or that and claim this and that.

The user base has no clue how you garnered your results from the data that you show; at this point you're not really arguing against any person, your arguing against math that's been shown to be close enough to RL results to come to the current conclusion (neither job has a distinct advantage in DPS when both are standing on equal grounds in their damage stance).

Your opening statement ["To keep this short and sweet; PLD will NOT out DPS a WAR in equal gear, ever."] is just silly in that it implies that WAR has a sizable advantage over PLD; this contests what math shows. The sample size you present is no where near decent and all we have to go off of is your word that your other parses follow suit.

You may have the wrong idea about how theorycrafting works if you are asking people to contest incomplete data that is supposed to go against what's been shown to be mostly accurate. You have to compile the data that shows otherwise with full confidence, incomplete data and word of mouth won't cut it for most people as well as telling others to spend their time to replicate your tests.