Future of Coil in DF

[Zephyranthes]

Saying things like "T5 in DF is too much" and expecting people to always fail is not an excuse for not including them in DF in the first place.

DF is supposed to be there to give people easier access to forming groups. If you get matched with people who knows the fight, then lucky you. Else, keep on trying.

[Radacci]

T2 was quite a cockblock to a large number of groups just like how T7 is. I believe that the duration of petrified will reduce or even removable via Esuna/Leech just like the High Voltage nerf.

Do you think reducing petrify duration will help? 1 shriek will cause anyone to get 1shot; that's not really like nerfing High Voltage.
Most healers aren't very good at Esuna/Leech. It's rare that i get DET debuff removed at TitanHM, in roulette. So i don't think a DF pt would be able to get through all the petrify/poison tail, unless you get really lucky with a group.

Even in it's nerfed state there is plenty to learn in T1-5. The notion that people learn nothing with it nerfed and with the Echo is quite frankly, a bunch of BS. It's still harder content than anything that comes before it, maybe with the exception of the EX primals. Just because you see bad players doesn't mean they're eternally stuck in some state of being terrible, without ever learning anything.

Nah, it's about reflexes, and attitude. There's this guy in FC, his GF has played games for years, but she doesn't improve; ppl have a *skill cap*
It's like ppl thinking they can be anything they want to be, if they just apply themselves...not really...have you seen Idol? some ppl cant sing, if their lives depended on it
As DD, if you always get tunnelvision, you're just gonna wipe your party, in T6-9. They might learn the mechanics, but that don't help if you don't notice them.

Saying things like "T5 in DF is too much" and expecting people to always fail is not an excuse for not including them in DF in the first place.

DF is supposed to be there to give people easier access to forming groups. If you get matched with people who knows the fight, then lucky you. Else, keep on trying.

Yah, but that's like waiting for the stars to align...
It took me 100hrs of TitanX, before i clear it. and only because i started forming pts myself, kicking and replacing ppl...otherwise it would have taken 100+ more.
That was 15hr/day for a week and a half....you know what i could have done with that time instead? go on a 2 week vacation or something...but no, i was wiping to TitanX instead...
PF is quite easy access to forming groups...gives you more control, too.
So, personally, im never gonna do any DF, except for normal instances.

[Ooshima]

Do you think reducing petrify duration will help? 1 shriek will cause anyone to get 1shot; that's not really like nerfing High Voltage.
Most healers aren't very good at Esuna/Leech. It's rare that i get DET debuff removed at TitanHM, in roulette. So i don't think a DF pt would be able to get through all the petrify/poison tail, unless you get really lucky with a group.

I don't know how SE is going to do it though, I was just trying to draw a similar possibility with what was done in T2. Except that tecnically Rot from T2 is still supposed to wipe you but you can bypass that with soft enrage. T7 you can't.

Rot is akin to Curse Shriek - handle it wrong, raid wipe. High Voltage is like Cursed Voice. Yes, reduced time in petrified state helps. If you are a mDPS that got petrified, you may need not die even with current 30s timer, but it is a damn long wait. If your raid has 3 ranged DPS and you got voiced, you have a 33% chance to escape instant death if you are not being picked as the Circle of Flames target. Say if the debuff reduced from 30s to 10s and able to be cleansed with Esuna/Leech, I think it does ease the casualty from an error made with Cursed Voice.