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  1. #21
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    It's easy enough to not leave an instance until the item is distributed.
    Not if the only way people have of telling the system they'll only take it if nobody else does is to wait and not select any of the options. That means nothing can be distributed until it times out, and we're all stuck standing around twiddling our thumbs for several minutes after the dungeon is over. It's also really frustrating if you do really want to equip the item, but your Need roll can't take place until everyone's made their selection. Sometimes getting an item before the run's over would make the run go more smoothly if it's a significant upgrade.

    The solution Tsukino mentioned above is probably the best way to handle it. Add another level between Greed and Pass, to indicate we'll roll only if nobody else rolled Need or Greed. (At that point, the only reason for anyone to ever pass anything would be if their inventory is full and they really would rather it drop on the ground than take it.) That way involves everyone making a selection so the rolls can take place and the item be distributed, without needing to wait for everything to time out before it can be distributed.
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  2. #22
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Not if the only way people have of telling the system they'll only take it if nobody else does is to wait and not select any of the options. That means nothing can be distributed until it times out, and we're all stuck standing around twiddling our thumbs for several minutes after the dungeon is over.
    So you're telling me it's not easy to sit around for a maximum of 5 minutes? Is it unnecessary? Yes, it is. It's just other people being dicks. But if you want the item, don't leave until it's been distributed. How is that hard?
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  3. #23
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    A third option between Greed and Pass would be nice. Maybe call it "Donate", and have the winner automatically receive GC seals as the item disappears. It would, if nothing else, be better than watching people Greeding or Needing for seals.

    And to avoid that type specifically, I'd change it so that Expert Delivery can be done only through "Donate".
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    A third option between Greed and Pass would be nice. Maybe call it "Donate", and have the winner automatically receive GC seals as the item disappears.
    For a lot of loot, your GC isn't the only place you can sell it. So long as it's not untradeable, people might want to sell it on the marketboard, but still defer to anyone in the group who would use the item themselves.

    Actually, since "greed" is a good name for that, perhaps its best to think of the additional category as going between Need and Greed, so there would be:
    Need1 (for current class, with Need's current class restriction rules)
    Need2 (for alt classes or cosmetics, without any restriction rules on who can choose it)
    Greed (for Marketboard or GC Expert Delivery)
    Pass (let it drop on the floor, you really don't want it)

    Then perhaps have the item bind to you if you choose either Need option and win the roll, so you can only sell it if you won it through the Greed option. (To avoid people falsely using those to trade for seals, then make Expert Delivery be limited to unbound items as well. Though I'm less certain I like this last point because it would also prohibit trading in items you've out-leveled after using them a while.)

    With that arrangement, nobody would Pass or wait out the timer just in case somebody else wants it directly, because anyone who wants the item directly could choose the secondary Need option. Greed could become the standard default choice for anything you weren't looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    snip.
    Yeah but it's a poor example, as that is incredibly unlikely to happen. Most groups have loot all sorted and discussed before even beating a turn, sometimes weeks in advance, let alone not even bothering to roll after the turn.
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