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  1. #11
    Player
    yamiramirez's Avatar
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    Jean Grey'summers
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    You may not be a teenager, but you still find the need to validate yourself? Kind of contradicts your premise. Anyway, dps que time always blucks, I'm waiting for Crystal Tower and the Average Wait Time is more than 30 minutes. Now who really wants to wait that long? Beside the "AWT" is being kind, a dps could possibly wait anywhere from 1hr to never getting in at all. It is true, tanks and healers have a better wait time, but why should someone have to be either just to do dungeons? What you get is tanks and healer that suck completely.
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  2. #12
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    SkyHighDN's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Robin Locksley
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    The average wait time on the Duty finder is in reference to the average wait time of all characters... there has been mention of breaking it down into the 3 different roles already by one of the game managers on one of the other threads....

    I think they mentioned that as a future fix they were planning on doing.... I think it was stated that the average wait time would be reflective of your role. They were working on writing the coding for it. And the hold up was based on the roles themselves (Yoshi has been hinting at installing a "Support" role, and breaking up the trinity...... and depending on which classes get added/shifted over to this role. Assuming the Bard will become a support role at some point plus an additional class).


    The topic of average wait time being broken HAS been addressed by the dev team.

    The topic the original poster brought up is that the "Adventurer in Need" bonus is not reflected in real time to each roullette. And since that is "broken" he feels that it needs to be fixed because queuing in as the adventurer in need role does not result in a quicker queue each time. Hence he mentioned playing the test and requeue to figure out which role is actually needed at the time. (That was the point i was rebutting). Two completely different issues
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  3. #13
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Character
    Randolont Althoreaux
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    THe wait times ARE broken down by role now. Queue for the same dungeon on various roles (including ranged DPS vs melee) and you'll see your average wait time change. As for the "Adventurer In Need' bonus...it is indeed only calculated every 30 mins-1hr or some such. It isn't calculated on the fly. This is to avoid situations (especially if DPS is "In Need") where the role bonus changes on you before you can do the dungeon. Even at peak times you can get situations where the "In Need" Bonus causes a rather rapid increase of the role but the role in need won't change until the next update period comes around. Lodestone works the same way.
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  4. #14
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Character
    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Many times when it said tanks in need, i queued as tank no content, but i queued as healer i got instant queue.
    Same thing happens vice versa, I think the "in need" need to be updated more frequently.
    Otherwise some people may be misleaded.
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  5. #15
    Player
    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Character
    Pomelo Elmbrook
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    To be honest, in the past week my queue times as melee have been faster than my healer (Both 50 for EX/HL roulettes)
    That's wierd right? XD
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  6. #16
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    Poringing's Avatar
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    Character
    Yari Lanza
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    As far as I know, the roulette bonus doesn't update instantly based on missing classes. If I were to hazard a guess, it's only updated once every 10 minutes.

    What I do during off-peak hours is register as the needed class, but re-check every other minute for update. Once it updates, change to the new needed class, register and enter, usually instant.
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  7. #17
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    Lanceton's Avatar
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    Character
    Lanceton Oni
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    what happens during the off-peak hours will be something like this:
    roulette says "tank" is in need
    but actually there are only 2 tanks, 0 healer, 2 dps queuing for the content
    now if I am to queue for the content, and I see it says "tank" is in need, so I queue as a tank, so do another 3 players who wish to do the roulette
    now we end up with 3 teams consist of
    2 tanks 0 healer 2 dps
    2 tanks 0 healer 0 dps
    2 tanks 0 healer 0 dps
    if the 'in need' indicator updates instantly, we would have gotten one team ready to pop right away, but instead we got 3 teams waiting forever
    theoretically this would lengthen the average wait time for all players peak or off-peak alike, just the impact is far more noticeable during peak hours.
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  8. #18
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    Zdenka's Avatar
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    Zdenka Vaera
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    The only time it needs to be fixed is when it says DPS is in need... cuz yeah lol. I've queued when it had that before as BLM and hit a 30m queue when I am sure Tank would have been instant.

    Also SkyHighDN your post says the reward is once per day? Thats just for the seals. The Tank/Healer/DPS in need 4500 gil you can repeat all day long if you want. (I repeat Trial Roulette for the 2700 a lot right now because its quick, entertaining, and I'm probably bored)
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  9. #19
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanceton View Post
    the roulette class bonus seem to be based on the 'average wait time', however the 'average wait time' doesn't reflect how many players of each class category are currently on queue at all during off peak hours. e.g. many groups might actually be waiting for DPS while the roulette indicates that Tanks are in need, hence 'broken'
    Not broken, DPS are by far lowest priority to be listed as "in need". The only times it really says DPS are when there's practically nobody in queue. A group needing 1 DPS 1 tank 1 healer will put the role bonus to tank; that's just common sense based off the # of people playing these jobs. Plenty of DPS so even when they're "in need" they're not as "in need" of the roles people don't take to roulettes as much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    The only time it needs to be fixed is when it says DPS is in need... cuz yeah lol. I've queued when it had that before as BLM and hit a 30m queue when I am sure Tank would have been instant.
    And why are you sure of that? I've tried it, doesn't work, again DPS only pops up at the rarest of times generally late at night. Also right after a maintenance. It only lists the role most in need, doesn't mean a party is 7/8 waiting on you.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 06-22-2014 at 11:16 PM.

  10. #20
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I love when they have "in need Healers" you got healer and you're in queue for over 20 minutes... That was afternoon JST on Tonberry.

    The queue has been broken for a while, it doesn't display everyone in your party for ages. You're a single healer in queue for over 20 minutes and then you instantly get a group >.>.
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