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    So the one that decides which player performed the best is the new guy that doesn't even know the mechanics of the dungeon? When I was new I had no idea which in the party deserved a thumbs up since I didn't know wth was going on most of the times.

    The only thing a new player can notice is which is going to kiss his *** more for those myths. It will make for a pathetic showing of let me love you scenarios and I can't do that. Is forced and fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    The only thing a new player can notice is which is going to kiss his *** more for those myths. It will make for a pathetic showing of let me love you scenarios and I can't do that. Is forced and fake.
    Being friendly and explaining mechanics to the new guys is "kiss his ***"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stupiddog View Post
    Being friendly and explaining mechanics to the new guys is "kiss his ***"?
    That is going to happen a lot. Forced creepy smiles and laughing at every joke the new guy does. Is like running a dungeon with Kim Jong Un.

    There are plenty of people that are helpful without a reward. You put a reward to it and you make it awkward. Is like in real life, plenty of good and horrible people around. As time goes on you'll eventually end up making friends and playing with the ones that you feel comfortable with.

    A horrible person will be the same no matter what. He will put a mask once in a while and after the dungeon ends he'll send you a PM cursing you left and right for not seeing how good spirited he was. There are people that will do everything to get some myth and they will harass the player that didn't give them the reward. That is one of the reasons you don't give that power to a player, that's unnecessary responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    There are plenty of people that are helpful without a reward. You put a reward to it and you make it awkward.
    We are already there:
    - [Presumed] Intention of DR: Give myths to other players so they play old content together with new players
    - Unintended consequence: They play old content, but ignore newbies (if they are lucky) or abuse them (frequently, given the number of threads on the forums).

    A horrible person will be the same no matter what. He will put a mask once in a while and after the dungeon ends he'll send you a PM cursing you left and right for not seeing how good spirited he was.
    No difference to status quo - report it, and GMs will be happy to show the way to the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stupiddog View Post
    No difference to status quo
    Currently a new player is not in charge of the rewards another player gets. After each dungeon run the newbie will make one person happy and 2 or 3 angry at him. Over time that accumulates and here you have this new guy in the end with a bunch of people in the server that will have not much respect for him. All he wanted to do is run some dungeons peacefully but you gave him a responsibility that is almost equal to a FC leader. Especially bad when you give that responsibility to a new player that is just trying to learn about the game and possibly make some friends. A person that is in charge of who gets what will always make enemies.
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