If DR rewards boil down to myths per hour anyway...

[ruinedmirage]

Player, not character. I guess if someone really has the energy and money to buy new FF14 copies and/or hack other people's accounts, there is nothing in the world that could stop him.

As for the current situation, do you think SE really anticipated this? Should they really think "Well, let Darwin sort it out" then yes, they are beyond help and I am in the wrong place.

In my opinion, SE has done everything they can to put restrictions as well as incentives and be fair. As far as I know, it works in Japan, but NA audience is just greedy and self centered. They've taken all the necessary steps needed to make a great game, but if we don't want to play nice, that's our own problem. More bribery will lead to more abuse and more bad attitudes. Nature of the beast.

[Vahlnir]

In my opinion, SE has done everything they can to put restrictions as well as incentives and be fair. As far as I know, it works in Japan, but NA audience is just greedy and self centered. They've taken all the necessary steps needed to make a great game, but if we don't want to play nice, that's our own problem. More bribery will lead to more abuse and more bad attitudes. Nature of the beast.

Couldn't help but agree with this statement concerning some people. You probably shouldn't make a generalization like this on the forums though as most don't act this way in-game...it's gonna get ugly fast so be ready.

As to the OP, it's a really, really bad idea and screams "abuse."

Power corrupts.

[stupiddog]

More bribery will lead to more abuse and more bad attitudes. Nature of the beast.

Where exactly would that bribery take place? Nobody knows beforehand in which DF queue he will be, so it is quite inprobably the players in the instance know each other. And (not tried this yet) is there even a /tell functionality in instances? If everything is open chat, how could a bribe take place?

But regarding your impression about the NA audience, I have to add the EU one as well (which I am a part of, so forum mods, please do not scream discrimination)

[ruinedmirage]

Where exactly would that bribery take place? Nobody knows beforehand in which DF queue he will be, so it is quite inprobably the players in the instance know each other. And (not tried this yet) is there even a /tell functionality in instances? If everything is open chat, how could a bribe take place?

Sorry if the word bribery was misleading, or if I reference it in another context. Anything that gives rewards for doing typical stuff, such as commendations, challenge logs, or even changing to myth per hour (which my first thought was speed run to last boss then sit there until the last 5 or 10 minutes of the duty run), is a form of bribery in my book. SE is trying to force - sorry, ENCOURAGE - people to "be nice" or "play this content" by offering a bribe ... er, I mean increased reward, for something that should be done as normal common practice.

[stupiddog]

mAnything that gives rewards for doing typical stuff, such as commendations, challenge logs, or even changing to myth per hour (which my first thought was speed run to last boss then sit there until the last 5 or 10 minutes of the duty run), is a form of bribery in my book. SE is trying to force people to "be nice" or "play this content" by offering a bribe ... er, I mean increased reward, for something that should be done as normal common practice.

I agree, but it is the only thing that seems to work (at least to a certain degree - the prospect of empty dungeons or endless queue time seems realistic) - so if the bribe is necessary, it should reward friendly behaviour, which (IMHO) it fails to do at the moment.

[CUTS3R]

First-time players (and only for the very first time they play the dungeon) should decide which player gets how many myths. Making a good impression and making an effort to explain something to new player in a polite tone would be rewarded

This is the worst idea ever.
Considering most of times i run the low level roulette and explains mechanics to 1st timers, it is not even certain to guarantee me commendation(s) even when all 3 players are first timers.
Some people aint even fussed about giving commendation(s) even when you've been nice and helpful to them or simply don't know how.

Relying on this system to get myth would be even worse for the same reasons and the DR would be deserted.

1st timers will then never get their dungeon done, because theyre either too bad to complete it due the lack of knowledge in dungeon mechanics or because not enough people are queuing for it via roulette and thus filling groups of 1st timers.


Really this would only bring problems.

[stupiddog]

This is the worst idea ever.
Considering most of times i run the low level roulette and explains mechanics to 1st timers, it is not even certain to guarantee me commendation(s) even when all 3 players are first timers.
Some people aint even fussed about giving commendation(s) even when you've been nice and helpful to them or simply don't know how.

This is because the technical implementation of commendations, as of now, is stupid (the window does not even pop up automatically...). Open it automatically, and distribute equally if the player really does not want to decide.

I also do not get commendations every single time, but esp. with Castrum, my average "success rate" when doing explaining is roughly 75% or better (when success is defined at least 2 commendations - you can never see where they came from). This is definitely a higher success rate than the times I am quiet.

[dejavutwo]

This is the worst idea ever.
Considering most of times i run the low level roulette and explains mechanics to 1st timers, it is not even certain to guarantee me commendation(s) even when all 3 players are first timers.
Some people aint even fussed about giving commendation(s) even when you've been nice and helpful to them or simply don't know how.

Not to mention DPS would never get any myth.

[stupiddog]

Not to mention DPS would never get any myth.

I am a DPS and I get commendations regularly.

[Zaiken]

Wow so you want people to AFK in Dungeon all day long, take the longest time to grind for Myth? No Thanks, grinding myth is already boring enough even with SR, don't need to take any longer.