This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[Sapphic]

And the people for speed runs can use Party Finder to find a speed run group.

No you can't as people do it once for the roulette bonus for abreak from Brayn drain flox.

To other posters. If the story dungeons where removed from roulette, No-one would run them. The cost of getting into the dungeons to finish the story are having to go with the desires of the masses, not the masses catering to the individual. Either days to get it done, or roulette.

Which would you prefer?

[Aldora]

It absolutely IS on the developers. If the story wasn't littered in the middle of the dungeon and was in an appropriate place - there would never be a thread titled "They don't let me watch my cutscenes!" Cutscenes in an appropriate place, i.e. on the player's OWN time, takes other people completely out of the equation.

How you can justify this being a failure of the players that are sick of old content I don't understand. If there isn't a system to be "abused" (and I am using that term VERY loosely. It's NOT abuse to be bored of seeing the same cutscene over and over and OVER again, ad naseum. It's NOTHING personal against a specific player.), then there isn't an opportunity for players to be hurt and complain.

Heh, funny that you are using the word “failure” there. I haven’t used that word once in my previous post. (^_^ )

Well then… How can you justify that it’s not equally the fault of the players, if the players are sick of running the old content, but they are still doing it because it will give them quick and easy Myth? That’s what i don’t understand.

If these players are so sick of running the old content (to the point of nausea, like you were saying), then why are they running it? Answer me that. They are just “torturing” themselves that way.

This should not come at the cost of a player who is new to the content and is still enjoying him/herself.

I always hear the complaint that people should watch cutscenes in their own time and they have should not waste time of the other party members. Well, i’m sorry but you are playing a game with other people. If the party kicks a member from the group because (s)he’s watching cutscenes, then the party will waste the time of the member that has been kicked because of it.

There is no solution for this problem. Because like i said earlier, this goes way beyond just watching cutscenes. If you think that moving cutscenes out of the dungeons would solve these issues, then you are mistaken. If people have to go AFK for a sec because they have to pick up the phone, answer the door, need a potty break, check on the kids, etc then they are wasting the time of someone else any way.

What are you going to do then? Kick them as well?

There is no such thing as a system that cannot be “abused”… There will always be ways to “abuse” a system. And yes, i was using the term loosely as well. For instance, avoiding mechanics by standing in a tree (1st boss at Amdapor Keep) or on top of a hill (1st boss at The Sunken Temple of Qairn) may not be a bannable abuse, but it’s still “abusing” the system to “manipulate” it in your favor.

[Vaer]

And the people for speed runs can use Party Finder to find a speed run group.

If everyone did that, the queue time for cm/prae would take hours for new players. The reason a lot of these people are in there is for the myth reward. PF prae/CM doesn't give bonus 80 myth rewards.

There's a reason why Low Level, Trials and Main Scenario roulettes can't be queued in a group. It's mostly there to help new players through these dungeons while giving incentives to other players to help them through it. Trials is there to help new players get their relics.

If they made all of these queues available to a group, it would mostly solve this issue with older players wanting to blast through the content and leaving new players behind, but the queue times would jump to ridiculous.

If you remove the reward, these new players would be making threads complaining no one is doing these dungeons and they can't experience their paid content.

Anyways, they could solve this really easily if they warped everyone in front of the boss seal for boss cutscenes when a cutscene is being viewed by at least one player and sealed everyone in until everyone was out like when you enter a dungeon. They probably haven't done it because less people would queue for it if they had to sit in a seal for 15 minutes at a time unable to do anything.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

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I usually just carry on with the fight or wait a couple of mins for the person watching the cutscene.
Though a good option to implement what you've said, to disable boss fight when a first-timer is watching cutscene, this will lead to insufficient players queuing for that dungeon.
Difficult to balance this situation IMO.

[Authority]

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This is story where story is told once. This is not a repeatable quest or a side-quest or a secondary quest or a mini-game. You choose to enter that content which you know it is a story and for some people including me will want to watch it and experienced it like we are supposed to. You are forcing us, the new comers to skip the content we are meant to experience. You make the choice entering a story-mode environment so you are being not only selfish-about-it by stating "dragging your ass" but want to impose your-doing-of-things on the story mode. You don't see me imposing my rules on other people's modes.

Primary objective which is to finish the story is primary. Secondary objective which is to acquire some loot (which I don't know what is all about) is secondary. You make that choice to enter that specific environment to accomplish those specific goals. No one is forcing you to do that or telling you that it is the only way to gear up in this game. You make the choice to re-clear something that is a story mode.

So much self-entitlement on the core design which I am playing it as is intended as the game intended it to be which is part of the main story with scenes.

[Elway358]

You can do Prae with 4 people. Anyone who whines about people watching custscenes should just quit doing that oulette. Why are they even doing it for myth lmao. If you want to speedrun go run Brayflox.

OP, I'm sorry it happened to you.

What this reply and others like it are failing to read/comprehend is that yes, you can do it with 4 or 5 people but the OP doesn't want that. He wants it ALL HIS WAY. He expects everyone else to sit with their thumbs up their ass and not be able to start a battle until he's done with a cutscene.

Get it now?

[Authority]

Next time just don't be such a loudmouth about it and you won't get kicked.

I wasn't a loud mouth. I didn't say nothing apart from I am not going to skip the scenes. And that is it. Do you want me to beg for it? You seriously want me to beg people so I can have the right to watch the main story I am playing which includes scenes?

[Elway358]

This is story where story is told once. This is not a repeatable quest or a side-quest or a secondary quest or a mini-game. You make the choice entering a story-mode environment so you are being not only selfish-about-it by stating "dragging your ass" but want to impose your-doing-of-things on the story mode. You don't see me imposing my rules on other people's modes.


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Actually IT IS repeatable as many times as you like and what you were trying to do was exactly IMPOSE YOUR RULES ONTO OTHER PEOPLES PLAY MODES. You plainly state you want people to have to wait for battle until you finish your movie.

Hypocrit much?

[Moqi]

What this reply and others like it are failing to read/comprehend is that yes, you can do it with 4 or 5 people but the OP doesn't want that. He wants it ALL HIS WAY. He expects everyone else to sit with their thumbs up their ass and not be able to start a battle until he's done with a cutscene.

Get it now?

Yeah, and he's right. If there's a new player, I do as he says because it's his first time and he's got a right to enjoy the experience in its entierity, since first times only happen once. If I don't feel like waiting for every cutscene, I don't queue for main scenario. But if you'vereally got a fire under your ass, go ahead and leave him to watch the cutscenes. If you can't do it with one people less why are even trying to speedrun it lol. People asking others to skip cutscenes are ridiculous, there is no justification for it apart from rudeness. If they ask twice, I'll start a vote kick for harassment.

[Narissa]

I got lucky on my first run through there, all of the group members allowed me to watch the cutscenes without any problems and 1 of the tanks even guided me to them after I got lost cause they went on ahead.

But on the 2nd run, when I was doing my dallies, I met the complete opposite. There was 1 guy who said straight away he was new to the instance and after that, everyone just started flaming him and telling him to leave the instance, so I stepped in and told them to back off and leave him be, we all had a first time. So then they started to flame me and like 5 mins later, I get kicked from the instance lol..

So i shaked it off and went again, same thing over and over. I no-longer do it anymore, its not worth it.