1% or less drop rates and how they hurt the game

[Xenor]

When droprates get too low they have the opposite effect of making people do content less, not more. If getting a Leviathan mirror was a realistic goal I would have done dozens of runs to get one, however I refuse to do hundreds of runs to get one so my kills are probably in the single digits despite beating it for the first time two days after the patch.

[Adler]

I always get supposedly rare drops from fights when I feel I truly performed better than others and if I see astonishing player in group that excel at what he does during the battle I know that 99% good drop will fall for him/his class. Same goes for Atma - if you don't just act like a bot in fate then you can get all your atma within a week by doing fates half an hour every day.

[Kiroh]

I always get supposedly rare drops from fights when I feel I truly performed better than others and if I see astonishing player in group that excel at what he does during the battle I know that 99% good drop will fall for him/his class. Same goes for Atma - if you don't just act like a bot in fate then you can get all your atma within a week by doing fates half an hour every day.

For the last time, as explained by Yoshida, Atma drops are

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[therpgfanatic]

The problem isn't the grind, but the heavy reliance of RNG for some of the end-game stuff.

You have to grind for tomes to buy gear. That's a good type of grind; you know if you beat a boss or do a daily, you will get a fixed reward. Sure, I have to do like 100 DF runs to get fully equipped but at least I can grind in confidence that my efforts will be rewarded.

RNG grind is different. You could get the item on the 1st kill. You could get it on the 100th, or the millionth. The billionth. You have no idea what kill it will be, because the God of RNG is in control of your destiny. And he is a cruel god.

[NorthernLadMSP]

IMO 1% on anything is ridiculous. Even 5% may be pushing it. However, as another peroson stated, with CT2 coming up and Ramuh weapons, there will be way less reason to even farm Levi for mirrors. I haven't been farming for mirrors, but the weapons themselves. I just unlocked him about a week or two ago and have about 20 wins and have only received one weapon so far.

As for Ramuh weapons, I remember it being stated that he will mostly drop accessories, but that the weapons would still drop a fair/moderate amount.

[Nadrojj]

Everyone wants a rare item, most people aren't willing to put in the time it takes to get it. Welcome to the world of mmo's. If you don't like it maybe you should pick up a console rpg. I wish there was more rare items in the game. I hate seeing carbon copies of the same job same gear running all over the place.

[DragonFlyy]

1% or less drop rates and how they hurt the game

Hasn't hurt Everquest/Everquest2/World of Warcraft/Lord of the Rings Online/etc.

It isn't going to hurt this one either.

[Pooky_Pasha]

Rare drop in an MMO...no way! My biggest problem is how fast we can grow out of rare battle gear. There is no staying power. Soon I can get a 110 SMN book, then my Tital Wave Grimoire will just be taking up an inventory spot =/

[Tiggy]

I'm fine with the rarity of the mounts, but the weapon is pretty insane since it's actually easier to get the T7 and Animus weapon than it is to luck out and get a mirror. It's only an i100 weapon after all.

[OSUBuckeye4]

The dev's really should put failsafes in for people who get completely bent over by RNG trying to obtain progression related gear.


Every time you complete a FATE in a zone you get an atma shard... collect 100 shards and you get your piece.

Along the way, you have a 2-3% chance to get a complete piece of atma. If you get your complete piece of atma, go ahead and discard your shards because they are now worthless.


This way, you have your people who get completely screwed by RNG, but they still progress as they grind.

You also have your lucky few who get their shard completing one of the first 5 FATE's in the zone that they particpate in.


Everyone is happy! Yay!


(as far as things like rare mounts and minions, let them continue to be completely random... they are vanity and serve no real purpose outside of showing off)



- I don't know if anyone else said anything like this, I only read the OP.