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  1. #81
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    Macka's Avatar
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    Macka Na'vatru
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    Diabolos
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    Miner Lv 50
    If you want to watch cutscenes roll with 4 friends 2 tanks 2 healers trust me the other dps won't run ahead without tanks or heals.
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  2. #82
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Macka View Post
    If you want to watch cutscenes roll with 4 friends 2 tanks 2 healers trust me the other dps won't run ahead without tanks or heals.
    Which is precisely why you can specify "no cut-scene skipping" in DF. If people want to avoid conflict, there is a good opportunity.
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  3. #83
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70
    SE needs to retake control of their game like this:

    Castrum & Praetorium--If, and ONLY if, there are new players in the Duty Finder group, cutscenes are non-skippable.

    Post-50 dungeons--Same rule applies. In addition, boss barriers will remain up until any engaged enemies are defeated.

    Efficiency Nazis really have to learn that the game isn't all about them.
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  4. #84
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Efficiency Nazis really have to learn that the game isn't all about them.
    Likewize, lore Nazis really have to learn that the game isn't all about them.

    That is why a DF has no special requirements forced upon them. That is what PF is for.
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  5. #85
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Agree with OP, first time Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium are still the worst in-game experiences for me. Yes, you can watch all videos in the inn - yes, it breaks immersion in exorbitant amounts. Your group's not in those, the adrenaline rush and all the emotional build-up aren't there, it's basically like recording a big live event broadcast from TV and watching it a day later when you've already heard all the news about it. I'm not sure what could be done about it (save for suggestions like "random DFs shouldn't be used for / expected to be speedruns"), but it definitely isn't a positive experience for new players.
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  6. #86
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    Roderic Musard
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm a Paladin. Some old folk ask me to kill some dudes and let my sword eat their soul. Sound kinda weird right ?
    I mean those guys with a sword eating souls are not know to be good and respected paladins :



    Then, i got some old book about an other knight and i'm asked to kill the same dude he did in his book (and feed my HOLY sword with their SOULS !).

    So i got my first book, asking me to kill some specific dude. A 2nd Cohort Laquearius.
    It has to be this guy, that dont work with 1st Cohort Laquearius or 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus who fight on his side.
    So if that book is so old and i have to kill (AND FEED MY HOLY SWORD WITH THEIR SOULS !) the same dudes than in the story, why should i kill some Garlean Empire soldier ?
    The story is old and these soldiers were not here few years ago ! Garlemald was still "a small, remote nation which held little more than a fraction of the northlands".

    And then i got my second book, asking me this time to kill some 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus (AND FEED MY HOLY SWORD WITH THEIR SOULS !!!) . Ok, i already kill a buch of them while i was stealing souls of his friend, 2nd Cohort Laquearius. Why did i need to read in the book about a story of an old dude who killed a 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus (and that's a fake since there were no Garlean Empire back then) before to be able to steal their souls ? Since i already kill a lot of them, i should already have their souls.

    Anyway, that's a storyline who make sense. Genius.
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    Last edited by Ravno; 06-19-2014 at 03:06 PM.

  7. #87
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    Lughna Ravensworn
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    Gladiator Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravno View Post
    I'm a Paladin. Some old folk ask me to kill some dudes and let my sword eat their soul. Sound kinda weird right ?

    Then, i got some old book about an other knight and i'm asked to kill the same dude he did in his book (and feed my HOLY sword with their SOULS !).

    So i got my first book, asking me to kill some specific dude. A 2nd Cohort Laquearius.
    It has to be this guy, that dont work with 1st Cohort Laquearius or 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus who fight on his side.
    So if that book is so old and i have to kill (AND FEED MY HOLY SWORD WITH THEIR SOULS !) the same dudes than in the story, why should i kill some Garlean Empire soldier ?
    The story is old and these soldiers were not here few years ago ! Garlemald was still "a small, remote nation which held little more than a fraction of the northlands".

    And then i got my second book, asking me this time to kill some 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus (AND FEED MY HOLY SWORD WITH THEIR SOULS !!!) . Ok, i already kill a buch of them while i was stealing souls of his friend, 2nd Cohort Laquearius. Why did i need to read in the book about a story of an old dude who killed a 2nd Cohort Hoplomachus (and that's a fake since there were no Garlean Empire back then) before to be able to steal their souls ? Since i already kill a lot of them, i should already have their souls.

    Anyway, that's a storyline who make sense. Genius.
    Not exactly unique for this kind of weapon in a FF game. It doesn't make any less sense than the bolt dodging.
    Onion KnightEdit
    FFX Weapon - Onion Knight
    Lulu's Celestial Weapon is named after the recurring job, and bears the sprite of the Final Fantasy III Onion Knight on its shield. To obtain it, the player must search for the coordinates "12, 57" while aboard the airship to locate Baaj Temple. There, the player must dive into the water and swim to the northern doors. Geosgaeno will attack and after it is defeated, the chest containing the Onion Knight is located in the southern part of the area underwater.

    The Venus Crest is found in the Farplane after Jyscal Guado has been sent and the party is ready to leave for the Thunder Plains.

    To obtain the Venus Sigil, the player must go to the Thunder Plains and dodge two hundred consecutive lightning bolts without leaving the area. The player is not told how many bolts they have dodged, and if they miscount and leave the area without dodging enough bolts, their total is reset. It is advised the player thus aims for more than two hundred bolts in case they miscalculate. Saving the game will also reset the count. Once two hundred bolts have been dodged in a row, the chest containing the sigil will appear in front of the Thunder Plains branch of Rin's Travel Agency. This key item is considered the most difficult to obtain in the game.
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  8. #88
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Efficiency Nazis really have to learn that the game isn't all about them.
    The game isn't all about new players either. Vets are just as important as newbies. The more players the better for SE.

    I don't think they should make DF cater to one side or the other. We have PF for that already.
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    Last edited by Elim; 06-19-2014 at 06:14 PM.

  9. #89
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    Kule Ito
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 75
    If there is a new player in the group make it so no one can skip cutscenes and use the lock in device that's on primals. Then after completing the DR/DF everyone gets an extra 300 myth reward.

    Also have it as an opt in toggle like queue in progress.
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  10. #90
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 53
    So the story (plot and characters) doesn't fall apart. It's the last two dungeons because of cutscene skipping. Misleading title for the win.
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