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  1. #11
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    I'm going to go as close to 50/50 on Parry/Accuracy as I can. This would mean 26 Acc/27 Parry on the Sword and 11/11 on the Shield. This is because I'm a fan of balancing things like this and it minimizes infusions of grade IV Materia... or at the very least Grade IV Infusions that don't have a 100% chance of succeeding.
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    Kurara Mamegano
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    I just wanna eat Poppotto Pancakes and get the full benefits (600 Base Parry)
    From what i can see, the only way to achieve 600 base parry atm would be to cap it on the weapon/shield and get the required H.A Drops (Gloves, Boots, Earing, Bracelet). This would put us at 630+ Parry. Perhaps a hidden threshold if you will.

    Since Poppotto pancakes are essentially the only 3star food which we can achieve the max benefits from currently, i personally think this is sign that SE wants us to prioritize Parry as Tanks.
    S-E also wants every class in the world to prioritize SS if you go by the numbers they're putting on the gear.

    Doesn't mean SS is any better, and it doesn't mean parry is any better if Pancakes only max parry when you stack it to the exclusion of everything else.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by subteraneanbird View Post
    S-E also wants every class in the world to prioritize SS if you go by the numbers they're putting on the gear.

    Doesn't mean SS is any better, and it doesn't mean parry is any better if Pancakes only max parry when you stack it to the exclusion of everything else.
    I'm not sure what your point is regarding the Parry/Pancakes. But its either your for Parry or against it. You sound like your on the against it side of the fence which is fine. All i'm saying is if you are a tank that value's parry the most you can get is approx 603+ with our current gear choices. I just found it ironic that the minimim stat requirement to achieve full benefits from the only useful 3star food in the game was 600 Parry. Personally i dont think that its random that SE did this. Mitigation is Mitigation. As a tank you can never have too much of it.

    Since your on the topic of SS take a look at Roast Canard. At the moment this is the best DPS food in the 3star tier which is also the 2nd most usefull food out of them since you can almost achieve full benefits by getting 600 Skill Speed. BRD and DRG seem to be the only classes that can come close however.

    Why do you think there is no direct upgrade to Buttons in a blanket and Black Truffle Rissotto? Instead they add a new food with SkS, VIT, DET. Also i've read that Skill Speed has almost the same stat wieghts as Crit does at the expense of TP management. Infact SS can actually provide a bigger boost in DPS.

    Why sould SE prioritize speed in this way? This also leads me to belive that there is some kind of Hidden bennefit to Skill Speed that none of us are acknowledging. However i dont plan on melding any SS to my relic as i'm personally prioritizing Parry/Acc.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 06-19-2014 at 09:10 PM.

  4. #14
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    Madotsuki Yamoire
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    Chipping away at Novus slowly. Doing Determination + Accuracy on sword and Determination + Crit on shield. It's what I want for my ideal gear setup. I'm not a big fan of over-stacking parry on PLD. If I was doing Bravura for WAR, I'd definitely do parry though.
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    Kurara Mamegano
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    My point on the parry and pancakes is to not judge any stat by incidental numbers such as that. Pancakes also max their accuracy at 600. Does that mean we should aim for 600 acc even though the current max required for any content in the game isn't even at 520? We should only judge a stat by it's actual numbers and the returns we can get. So far for parry results have been inconclusive. I'm not even saying don't stack parry. I'm saying pancakes should not be your justification for doing so, because food is in no way a secret coded message from S-E about what stats are the best. It's an item, and itemized for a whole variety of reasons beyond being optimal. Look at sachertorte. Look at classes that value Speed so lowly getting tons of it on Soldiery gear.
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  6. #16
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    My reasons are solely for Mitigation and prefering Tower Sheilds as some of the other choices devalue parry. Again i just found it ironic, in a way its just another reason for me personally to stack parry, incidental or not.

    Also mixed with my annoyance that SE realeases 3Star Food which are nearly impossible to reach full benefits. While i dont understand their reasons, all i can do is appreciate the fact that as Tanks we're the only class that can benefit from them.

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    Kizuna Astin
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    it mostly come down to personal preference. Go Parry or CRIT/DET will not break you as a tank. either way you can tank T9 just find with proper CD usage. (altho, Brutal coil is different story. but they not in yet, maybe parry will be prefer stat when it got implement. ;D
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  8. #18
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    The thing about Parry is that it won't be responsible for a huge decrease in "total" damage throughout a fight. Stacking it just increases the likelihood that you'll survive a "Whoops" moment or a deadly spike attack like Death Sentence(Or whatever the T9 equivalent is :P). I'm glad I have high parry whenever I parry an attack such that I'll die in two more hits instead of just one. More time for the healers to come to the rescue!

    It's not exactly necessary, per se, but it's helpful. Besides, it's the only stat Tanks have for raw mitigation, so we've gotta take what we can get!
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