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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Never said it was a bad Idea... I for one always done them on first day, but their forums were flooded with people moaning so they removed it and changed to once a day
    No no, I know that. However, what I'm saying is that maybe even there they should have kept the system. It's like someone gave a box of cookies to a kid and said "you'll get another next week". The kid DEVOURED the box and then spent the rest of the day complaining they had no cookies. Well, daddy did nothing wrong; the fault is intirely the children's.

    What the game company did was "oh well, I guess I'll have to give the kid only a handful of cookies every day because he can't control himself". But what about his brother who spends the week with his mom and only visits dad at weekends? he will have many less cookies per week if he only gets a share equal to his brother's each day he's there.
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 06-19-2014 at 03:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    But that's a pretty preposterous affirmation. It was completely optional do do all 7 runs in the first day. The whole POINT of the system is to give liberty to people. If someone says they feel FORCED to do all 7 runs on the first day, that's not the system's fault at all. It is designed to do the OPPOSITE.
    Not really any different than people feeling FORCED to do Brayflox Hard speedruns to get their books for animus within days rather than take their time, or even more Brayflox Hard to get alexandrite maps fast instead of taking their time with it.
    If it's allowed, there will be people that burn out on it. Doesn't matter if you say it's optional. If it can be done, they feel it must be done as well.
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    Don't need more weekend binge players, need people to fill regular dungeons everyday
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Don't need more weekend binge players, need people to fill regular dungeons everyday
    I'll answer this by repeating myself: People who can't login cuz of job, wife, et cetera simply WON'T, no matter what bonuses they have.

    There is nothing, NOTHING the game can do to make people who don't login on weekdays start to do so, short of paying them a salary so they don't have to work anymore. And as I said, if you could "binge play" on weekends, you'd help more people in the sum.
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    You missed the whole point of roulettes, it's to fill parties when NEEDED, especially at times where there's less players logged on.

    I fail to see the point of spamming 7 in a row on weekends where there's more people logged on and the parties are probably going to get filled anyways. Roulette provides minimal boost to get parties started.
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  6. #16
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    The point is what follows:

    You have 2 situations here. daily bonus and weekly bonus.

    Alex is an endgamer who can only play on weekends.
    Anne is a low-lvl player who can play every day.

    Alex can't log on weekdays, so he plays on weekends. He sits on his PC on saturday and only does the low-level roulette ONCE, since that's the one run where he can get something out of it. So he can help Anne gets a level on saturday for this run. Had he a weekly bonus, he'd run it more times, and Brian, John and little Timmy would also get a level from his subsequent runs into the low-level roulette on saturday.

    "but what about the other days?" you ask? well, Anne WON'T get a level from Alex REGARDLESS of which bonus system is in place, because Alex CANNOT play on weekdays, and making the bonus daily will not make Alex log in on tuesday to help Anne get her level. Got it now?
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 06-19-2014 at 04:43 AM.

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    Point of the thread:
    I can't play as much, please give me more free tomes

    Your story:
    Alex is only 1 of the thousands of weekend players, Anne will get her party regardless if Alex is there or not on the weekends. What Anne needs is people to fill her WEEKDAY parties, and to do that, you force people to run roulette everyday instead of binging on weekend.
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    Weird story about Alex and Anne aside, the system is designed to encourage you to play regularly, rather than binge and then not play again for a week. Sure, there will be people for whom playing a little bit every day just isn't an option. But for those with the option to do either, they're going to incentivize and encourage it where they can.
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    But then, you're assuming there are lots of people who can play on weekdays, who only do so because there's a daily bonus compelling them to do so, and would not otherwise... And that changing the system would make those people go away.

    Have you any evidence, however slim, that there is an expressive number of players in that category, enough to make said difference for the low-levels? Because I can arguably say there's many more people playing this game who can't play on weekdays than people who can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Point of the thread:
    I can't play as much, please give me more free tomes
    Where do you even remotely get this out of what the OP asked for? Alex would be spending the same amount of time in dungeons - just on Saturday in a chunk as opposed to Anne who can log in for one hour every night. No amount of reward is going to get Alex in that dungeon on Wednesday night, so why shouldn't we encourage him to run more dungeons when he CAN play?

    Some of the attitudes of players here really make me wonder why you chose an mmo. All you want to do is punish people who live different lives than you do.
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