Frontlines: Will def/mdef now come into play?

[tehomegaking]

I think it will. It wouldn't really make sense for tanks and armored melles to be frontlining and taking roughly as much damage as the rdps. Pretty interesting to think how this will affect the metagame and tanks playstyle.

[CeveArthu]

It doesn't really matter considering tanks build pure str in pvp because they arn't going to be tanking

The healers are the tanks of pvp, because the 24 man mob isnt going to target anything but the healers at the start of a fight

[Edenlys]

It doesn't really matter considering tanks build pure str in pvp because they arn't going to be tanking

Tank with vita build and strength build will have same amount of strength and HP, because of ilvl 80 sync !!

[Pibz]

Tank with vita build and strength build will have same amount of strength and HP, because of ilvl 80 sync !!

No!
This is NOT how item syncing works, what item syncing does is reduce the stats of your gear to the ilvl 80 stat caps, it does not restrict your character stats on their own!
So if you have a i90 piece of gear it will give less stats than if it wasn't synced, but an accessory that gives you str will still give you MORE str vs the vit ones which have NONE and the vit ones will also give you more vit, this is so obvious.
Stop spreading this nonsense already!

As for the OP question i doubt DEF and MDEF will work because we already have lvl 30 and 40 PvP where morale doesn't work and DEF and MDEF still don't work there either.
As for tanks taking roughly the same damage, you do realize they still have abilities that reduce damage up to 40% or just nullify it completely right?

[Edenlys]

No!
This is NOT how item syncing works, what item syncing does is reduce the stats of your gear to the ilvl 80 stat caps, it does not restrict your character stats on their own!

Your amount of statistic is capped ! All of your stat will be capped from 100+ to 80

[CeveArthu]

Your amount of statistic is capped ! It's the same thing on Alea. As a healer, amout of HP never exceed 3800 HP even if fully viitality jewel...

That's level syncing, not item level syncing

[Edenlys]

That's level syncing, not item level syncing

It's always a item sync... i80 is pretty low, there is less influence of itemization.

[Tandy]

Your still level 50. Your gear is capped to ilvl 80. You can still have diffrent stats from someone else depending on your gear choices. It doesn't cap your stats across the board, just how much you can gain from gear.

[Pibz]

It's always a item sync... i80 is pretty low, there is less influence of itemization.

That's not what you said above, and no there isn't.
Assuming each piece of i80 str accessory would give 10-11 str, having a full set of i90+ of those synced down to 80 would give you 50-55 more str than if you were using full vit acessory set and the full i90+ vit accessory set synced down would give 12-13 more vit per accessory to a grand total of 60 or 65 more vit.
Please tell me how having 50-55 more str or 60-65 more vit doesn't make a difference...
And there is NO character based stat cap in ilvl or EVEN in pure lvl syncing........

[tehomegaking]

As for tanks taking roughly the same damage, you do realize they still have abilities that reduce damage up to 40% or just nullify it completely right?

Well, obviously they have their cooldowns. But outside of Paladin, everything else's damage mitigation cooldowns, just seems like too little too seldom to survive vs that many players. True only paladin/warrior are actually tanks, but Dragoon will still have to function up close and personal, it does have heavy armor, but it's lack of defensive cooldowns and low mdef just seem like with the current system it will be too hard to survive.

As for the OP question i doubt DEF and MDEF will work because we already have lvl 30 and 40 PvP where morale doesn't work and DEF and MDEF still don't work there either.

Yeah, but thats wolves den. Seems to me like their intent was to make everyone a viable killing option, so you wouldn't be pigeon holed into the kill healer mentality, obviously that didn't quite work out though. I feel given the insane amount of players you're up against in frontlines, it just makes sense for def/mdef to finally come into play.