Please Change the Wording for STR and DEX!

[MartaDemireux]

Yes, it's as ispano said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_%...acter_class%29

It's also simply that DEX doesn't affect ranged damage in this game even though the tool-tip says it does. There are plenty of weapons in the history of video games that would classify as using DEX as well that they could add to this game. To make them use STR just doesn't sit well with me. And then you have all the possible ranged attacks they could add to our existing and future melee classes and jobs but they won't be using DEX as the tool-tip suggests they would. It's messy this way. It's much neater and accurate for the tool-tip to just specify the weapon type that the stat gives AP to.

There was a lot of misinformation going around when the game was launched due to people thinking those 3 attacks were based on DEX. In fact, Tomahawk at least (and likely the others) WERE based on DEX when they were added. It was only after the devs realized in doing this they made the attacks useless (the classes were put on STR gear and their AP scaled with STR). Now attacks just use AP and AP is derived from either DEX or STR depending on the weapon type you have equipped.

[ispano]

Yes, it's as ispano said.

It's also simply that DEX doesn't affect ranged damage in this game even though the says it does. There are plenty of weapons in the history of video games that would classify as using DEX as well that they could add to this game. To make them use STR just doesn't sit well with me. And then you have all the possible ranged attacks they could add to our melee classes and jobs but they won't be using DEX as the tool-tip suggests they would. It's messy this way. It's much neater and accurate for the tool-tip to just specify the weapon type that the stat gives AP to.

To be fair though, in things like D&D and such, you didn't get damage bonuses from DEX. Only chance to hit and such. Even with bows, your chance to hit was based on DEX. But not your damage. Certain bows allowed you to add your STR bonus, to a point, to damage, but not DEX. Even Rogues didn't get bonus damage to melee weapons from DEX, but since they had an innate sneak attack, it didn't matter if their STR was low.

[MartaDemireux]

To be fair though, in things like D&D and such, you didn't get damage bonuses from DEX. Only chance to hit and such. Even with bows, your chance to hit was based on DEX. But not your damage. Certain bows allowed you to add your STR bonus, to a point, to damage, but not DEX. Even Rogues didn't get bonus damage to melee weapons from DEX, but since they had an innate sneak attack, it didn't matter if their STR was low.

Yeah, to be honest there's really no point in having a separate stat for bow attack power in this game either. All it effectively does is lead to a varying appearance in gear due to basing gear sets on different stats. The actual functionality of it remains largely unchanged. PGL and ARC high-allagan body armor for instance have the exact same values of defense, magic defense, criticial hit rate, skill speed and vitality. The only difference is ARC's has DEX and PGL's has STR but they're still the same values.

But it's far too late in the games life to change an entire stats mechanic/system. Not too late to clarify it's use/correct the statement though and pave the way to get future classes/jobs on a more thematic and archetypal gear set!

[Sakasa]

Not too late to clarify it's use/correct the statement though and pave the way to get future classes/jobs on a more thematic and archetypal gear set!

Well they might add gear that carries both str and dex again when the level cap is increased so newer players won't have to get both. But on that point eventually they will have a split again when the new end game is set. And while it is possible they could use dex in a core melee situation or str in a core range situation or even pie for special damage types those would be exception added to the class/job so They wouldn't actually need to change the tool tip if the core rule applies. So reduce titan's str reduces damage making virus no different and following the rule so no exception. Now we do not really have an exception in the game at this point so the change of the tool tip would not be needed.

Also; off topic: Mitsuda Yasunori + Soken Masayoshi Track Collaboration 2015!

[Radacci]

I'm hoping it's not Dex, but a lot of people seem to believe it might use it.

(I personally thought they'd save Dex for the gun based class they have in the works)

a lot of ppl are delusional, like those ppl that thought sch artwork, wasnt sch.
or ppl that think nin will be dex, just cause it was in (insert list of other games)

(*: I'm running on the assumption that Guns will use DEX in similarity to ARC and that Twinblades will use DEX based on the recent .dat mining of traits. Traits can be found HERE and my rough translation can be found at the bottom of the post HERE)

Are you going to ignore that Lv X Petrify and Stone, is listed together with Batraal skills, suggesting that Batraal uses Stone and lv X petrify? it doesn't.
They aren't listing skills in order, and nowhere does it specifically say that dex boost is for rogue/nin...so ppl should stop saying (as you can see here, *nin will use dex*)
Also, i'm going to assume those traits are for gun class.

Your wording would suggest that ACN/SMN/CNJ/THM/WHM/BLM would do increased damage with str....they dont, except for AA, which is hardly their main source of damage.
No one is confused about what str description means...you're just confusing yourself over twinblades, because you're expecting it to be dex based...which it wont be.
did you even look at your own wording? you include every single melee wep into str, except daggers...and include daggers with all the ranged weps.......really? you don't see the logical fallacy?
str=melee weps
dex=ranged weps
daggers=melee weps=str.


also remember, they REMOVED elemental wheel....to SIMPLIFY the game...why would the suddenly complicate things by giving ninja, different mechanics?? and change how dex work, for ninja specifically?
the reason for shield lob, talon, etc being str....is for simplicity. cause if they were dex based, they would do shit damage, cause melee classes dont use dex gear.
do you think spear throwers throw further/harder with dex or str?....yah, not dex...
the entire concept of dex increasing any kind of damage, is stupid cliché, to begin with.
actually str should increase bow damage also, because the further back you can pull the string, the more powerful recoil, and the more force will go into the shot.

[Reynhart]

actually str should increase bow damage also, because the further back you can pull the string, the more powerful recoil, and the more force will go into the shot.

Great misconception of archery.
You're aware than you can't pull more and more on the string because if you do so, the arrow will simply...fall ?
The only realistic thing is that powerful bows should require a certain amount of STR for you to even shoot, which the required level pretty much cover.