Why oh why did they lock housing behind rank 6?

[HEC]

From what I recall, seems we will be able to craft inside our personal rooms, and then there will be personal houses..

We can come up with the maximum crafting stations a small can afford, and then compensate with our rooms/personal houses.

Just like gardens, with 3 max for large plots, the number of people that want to put seeds in it makes it the same than a small one, the which we'll do rotations.

So far, we are only 2 crafters, so we won't have much problems.

I thing you don't really understant the limitations ...

1. Amount of crafting tables (those which gives bonus) is about the classes not about the amount of crafters and every serious crafter will need to level all clases anyway hence having small house will cut the number of avialable "bonus" clases to half. Also I doubt you'd be able to place the crafting tables in your personal rooms but I might be indeed wrong as not much info was release about this yet and even if so the cost would be very prohibitive - they're all in range of millions (or at least several hundres of thousands) still on most of servers and remaing for a while as 3 star housing items and once you'd be able to craft them yourself you'd not need them anymore.

2. In regards of gardening - it's not about the amount of people "planting the seeds" - it's all about the time - currently the gardening is one of the huge income sources for FC house owners and having 2 or 3 patches instead of one will double or tripple that income or variety of items and seeds gathered. Considering each round of plants can take anything between 3 and 7 days to fully grow (depending on type of plant and amount of the feritilizing) and the fact that you might need to interbreed up to 3 times to get the high level seeds for most demanded products like Glazenuts, Broombush or Jute you're looking at about at least 20 to 30+ days to produce a few of one type - if you want all 3 it could be easilly over 3 months just to get those and so on ...

[joshsecret]

..and find I cannot buy it. Well looking I find out why, I have never been more disappointed in all my game time.

it was already mentioned in your thread from 2 days ago how long it would take to rank up to 6.

[hqdm]

Since when is it like this?
Back when we created out two person FC we tried everything to get to rank 6 and it took us almost 3 months.
I know that gear turn-ins know give you FC points (that's why we're rank 8 by now, else we'd still be rank 6 I guess xD) but is it enough to rank up your FC so fast?

Since the beginning of 2.2 it's been possible. Earlier perhaps, but since they don't announce the point change tweaks in the patch notes (2.28 was a stealth nerf to what I guess was an oversight) it's hard to be concrete about that.

I thing you don't really understant the limitations ...
2. In regards of gardening - it's not about the amount of people "planting the seeds" - it's all about the time - currently the gardening is one of the huge income sources for FC house owners and having 2 or 3 patches instead of one will double or tripple that income or variety of items and seeds gathered. Considering each round of plants can take anything between 3 and 7 days to fully grow (depending on type of plant and amount of the feritilizing) and the fact that you might need to interbreed up to 3 times to get the high level seeds for most demanded products like Glazenuts, Broombush or Jute you're looking at about at least 20 to 30+ days to produce a few of one type - if you want all 3 it could be easilly over 3 months just to get those and so on ...

Gardening, at least on my server, I wouldn't say is a huge income source at this stage in the game. Glazenut loops are public knowledge, the price has tanked to the point where it's not worthwhile anymore to actually produce the nuts, even if you already have a patch that's paid for itself. The rate at which they sell is pretty slow, 3-4 a week. Seeds sell even slower. The cost of the components outweighs what you'll make from not selling your nuts; G3 soil still sells. There's a much higher margin in just buying the items from someone else & crafting them into the 3star stuff, although even that is still relatively slow profit because of the low rate of sale. On paper it's profitable, but because hardly anyone is actually buying, it's not. It's still fun to tool around with I suppose.

[KingOfAbyss]

I thing you don't really understant the limitations ...

1. Amount of crafting tables (those which gives bonus) is about the classes not about the amount of crafters and every serious crafter will need to level all clases anyway hence having small house will cut the number of avialable "bonus" clases to half. Also I doubt you'd be able to place the crafting tables in your personal rooms but I might be indeed wrong as not much info was release about this yet and even if so the cost would be very prohibitive - they're all in range of millions (or at least several hundres of thousands) still on most of servers and remaing for a while as 3 star housing items and once you'd be able to craft them yourself you'd not need them anymore.

2. In regards of gardening - it's not about the amount of people "planting the seeds" - it's all about the time - currently the gardening is one of the huge income sources for FC house owners and having 2 or 3 patches instead of one will double or tripple that income or variety of items and seeds gathered. Considering each round of plants can take anything between 3 and 7 days to fully grow (depending on type of plant and amount of the feritilizing) and the fact that you might need to interbreed up to 3 times to get the high level seeds for most demanded products like Glazenuts, Broombush or Jute you're looking at about at least 20 to 30+ days to produce a few of one type - if you want all 3 it could be easilly over 3 months just to get those and so on ...

1- I think as well I explained myself unclearly. I do understand the limitations. We are 2 crafters, having all crafts maxed out, working on our 3 stars, once we'll get the time (or once we'll take the time ^^), now focusing on Battle more.

So its no rush, really, therefore, no limitation for us. And as you said perhaps you are wrong, perhaps it's me, we'll see it when personal rooms / personal houses / basement adjusted for the nice airships.. etc..

2- Here same applies: we are in no rush, we don't want to be the blue garter of gardening ^^ so we are ok not being the richest or anything.

[Tattered]

I thing you don't really understant the limitations ...

1. Amount of crafting tables (those which gives bonus) is about the classes not about the amount of crafters and every serious crafter will need to level all clases anyway hence having small house will cut the number of avialable "bonus" clases to half. Also I doubt you'd be able to place the crafting tables in your personal rooms but I might be indeed wrong as not much info was release about this yet and even if so the cost would be very prohibitive - they're all in range of millions (or at least several hundres of thousands) still on most of servers and remaing for a while as 3 star housing items and once you'd be able to craft them yourself you'd not need them anymore.

Regarding crafting tables, they only provide a CP boost to crafters at level 40 or below. Handy while leveling, but not necessary at all. So serious crafters (Builder of the Realm and such) have no use for them.

[Nukocafe]

We made our FC on May 21st and got it to rank 6 on June 1st and bought a house.
The secret? Just spam the hell out of those grand company turn ins. There's only 4 of us in the FC with only 3 of us doing any turn ins.
It can be frustrating, but its much faster than it used to be. The FC I had formed back in September took us 3 months to reach rank 8 now we're already halfway to rank 7 and a month hasn't even passed. If you're worried about land being bought, they are adding a new ward in 2.3 so just try to get to rank 6 by July 8th =P

Regarding crafting tables, they only provide a CP boost to crafters at level 40 or below. Handy while leveling, but not necessary at all. So serious crafters (Builder of the Realm and such) have no use for them.

THIS. Those crafting tables are completely pointless.

[Vallug]

By chance was your friend named "Sfgdfgd Dfgfdgs"?

No he was a in game friend from my last FC

[Vallug]

Let's have a crystal ball moment here. I see a future rage thread about how someone lost there FC house because they took a break from the game.
OP... Get some people in your FC. These houses were not meant for personal housing. if nobody uses the house it gets taken back.

Ill be in my house everyday.

[Zumi]

They did it so people can't just make a FC just to have their own personal house.

[Vallug]

They did it so people can't just make a FC just to have their own personal house.

It still could of been a lower rank.