SMN - Why it is not a very interesting job and not a good upgrade from ACN

[Dwill]

The other Summoner Tristen Nightflicker killed his own brother after Ifrit tempered him thus driving him insane. So Tristan aka The Dark Summoner made a deal with the Ascians to gain more power so he could get revenge on Ifrit as well as all other primals by destroying the beasts tribes now if you paid attention to the story then you'd realize that it was the Dark Summoner's drive for revenge and lust for power that allowed him to cross any morale boundary which is what corrupted. Unless we become corrupt and go to the dark side story wise giving the Summoner more of the primal's power to control a more powerful egi version of the primal wouldn't do anything.

Lore + balance issue. How can you not see this ?

[Eardstapa]

Akiza will only see posts that agree, hence why we need a petition to remove their posting rights...

[BloodPact]

Akiza will only see posts that agree, hence why we need a petition to remove their posting rights...

I aldeady reported his account for everything that could remotely serve to get his useless posts out of this thread but that didn't get anywhere as he's still trolling, and worse, people get this yet keep replying...

[Sanguisio]

Just ignore them.

[Akiza]

Plenty of people are upset with the Egis and think they should be completely overhauled people even spammed the E3 2014 live stream on youtube that the Egis sucked and need to be replaced with a proper pet. Maybe Square Enix will read my posts and give Summoner's the ability to summon the Primals when the level cap is raised to 75 or at the very least give us a pet that resembles a smaller version of the Primals.

[Rydia13]

http://i.imgur.com/d0Fqk7p.jpg el oh el

[Wolf_Shay]

Akiza, sweetie, just because you say that there are plenty of people that think the Egis suck doesn't make it true. You offer no proof, no shred of evidence that there are more than a scant handful of people that think like you. The majority of Summoners, vocal or anonymous, enjoy the Summoner, they enjoy having a role to play, they enjoy having abilities that complement having Summons out. Yes, having DOTs actually synergizes fabulously with your pet. You get a handful of pet actions that you can control, and several buffs for your pet as well. And, even better, you have a pet that doesn't hog the screen. The lore supports Egis, the lore supports Arcanists and their becoming of summoners, the only thing the lore doesn't support is your arguments.

[Dwill]

Akiza, sweetie, just because you say that there are plenty of people that think the Egis suck doesn't make it true. You offer no proof, no shred of evidence that there are more than a scant handful of people that think like you. The majority of Summoners, vocal or anonymous, enjoy the Summoner, they enjoy having a role to play, they enjoy having abilities that complement having Summons out. Yes, having DOTs actually synergizes fabulously with your pet. You get a handful of pet actions that you can control, and several buffs for your pet as well. And, even better, you have a pet that doesn't hog the screen. The lore supports Egis, the lore supports Arcanists and their becoming of summoners, the only thing the lore doesn't support is your arguments.

I like your style.

http://i.imgur.com/d0Fqk7p.jpg el oh el

Diffrent games, different lore, different gameplay, different mechanics, etc

[Akiza]

Every class/job takes its source material from classic Final Fantasy titles while the Summoner is the odd one out and completely ignores its own source material. As a Final Fantasy Summoner its fails on the gameplay, mechanics and visual levels and instead it is a generic MMORPG Necromancer. Why does the Summoner gameplay revolve primarily around stacking dots? Why does the Summoner play like a generic Necromancer? Why does the Summoner have a gimpy little pet? Why is the Summoner gimped to the point where it completely ignores it's own source material and is no longer a Final Fantasy Summoner?

What Square Enix did to the Summoner would be the equivalent of making a genric Sorcerer that just uses 3 moves shoot fireball, blizzard and thunder with no aoe burst damage and call it a Black Mage.

[Dwill]

Ignorant stuff

Rydia, from FFIV, the character who you could argue is the staple Summoner in the Final Fantasy series, learns Black and White magic but isn't the best at either. Also, her summons in battle are not permanent, they come, do their stuff then leave.

So do you really want a caster that is the worst at healing and dealing magic damage and have a burst button every few minutes ? Don't you even see how ridiculously stupid that is ?

Garnet and Eiko from Final Fantasy IX are from the summoner tribe but are also healers and totally not offensive so might as well give a DPS button to WHM and call it a FFIX summoner.

FFX, same concept at IX.

Your lack of knowledge isn't only in this game apparetnly. You don't even grasp the concept of Summoner in the Final Fantasy series, this game included.