Buyback Feature [Can I have it?]

[HunkaMunka]

I support Renshi 100% in regard to their opinion on the OP.

This feature is most certainly NOT DESPERATELY needed. There are many, many, many (as many manys as you feel make the point) features which need to be reformed before something like this is even considered, let alone implemented. SE should be ashamed that something like this was even brought to the attention of Yoshida-san at this this phase of the rebirth of XIV.

Before anyone jumps down my throat to chastize me for disagreeing with something which the unwashed masses clearly feel is necessary to their enjoyment of XIV, I would like to unmistakably point out that I am not against the concept per se, only that I am 100% against the application of ANY resources on a subject which is so obviously unnecessary at this point in time.

If you don't want to sell something, then make certain you are not selling it. If you sell it by accident, then deal with the consequences. You have made a mistake. TOUGH SH!T. Learn from your mistakes and do not repeat them.

I have never, NEVER, accidentally sold an item; and that's after 6+ years of XI and ~9 months of XIV. It's not difficult, I promise, you simply have to actually read what you are clicking on and making sure that you aren't just rushing through the menus.

If the UI is "too laggy" and it "makes" you sell an item other than that which you actually intended, or you "didn't notice" that you were selecting an item other than the one which you intended to sell, you need to SLOW DOWN and actually READ. I know, I know...reading...in a video game?!?

"It's a tad to easy to sell gear..." ARE YOU SERIOUS?!? How many buttons do you have to press before you actually sell the item? And yet it's too easy for you to accidentally sell items? WOW!

Oh yes, and one other item: feel free to call me a troll, or to refer to my reasoned and explained arguments as a wall of text, I realize that reading comprehension and the ability to connect multiple thoughts into a coherent agrument are two mental abilities that most people cannot hope to possess.

TL;DR quit being so lazy, I bet you'll sell fewer items accidentally

p.s. Mad props to Renshi for taking a stand; to Danny52844 and Scape for voicing their opinions, and to Dreamer for taking a sensible approach to the situation.

[Fated]

I agree.

If you think this feature is a "desperate necessity" right now, you need to stop failing.

[Jaide]

It takes so long to go through your inventory and sell all the junk you get in one play session that it's incredibly easy to become lax about checking the confirmation window for each item. Really, when you have 40 items to dump, requiring multiple clicks and UI lag for each one is awfully time consuming. Not only would a buy back feature give us peace of mind, it would also remove the need for us to confirm every single time we try to sell something. This should definitely go into any UI overhauls they have planned for the future.

[HunkaMunka]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!

Do you not see the flaw in this kind of logic???

You are treating the symptom when you should be curing the cause.

The solution is to FIX THE UI!!!!!!! so it's not a lag-infested sh!tstorm and to streamline it to make it more userfriendly.

[Jennestia]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!

Do you not see the flaw in this kind of logic???

You are treating the symptom when you should be curing the cause.

The solution is to FIX THE UI!!!!!!! so it's not a lag-infested sh!tstorm and to streamline it to make it more userfriendly.

I've never accidentally sold something due to a small latency problem with the UI so no the UI isn't completely to blame and they are working on it. You must not have played during Beta > Release, it's not a "lag infested" mechanic like it used to be, they can do only so much while it's serverside.

[Tibian]

I think the entire situation of desperately has been taken out of proportion. I never intended it to actually be "IMMEDIATE" as most of you seem to be interpreting; which is quite honestly my fault.

The buyback feature is a necessary feature of any MMO because sometimes the unfortunate happens.

However for all the mass of doom and gloom in this thread about prioritizing things... you don't make that decision, Square Enix does. If you would have read Bay's response, the buyback feature was already brought up prior to this threads creation. I could go on about how you didn't read close enough to that post because you were all worried about the word "desperately" implying an immediate fix, but I frankly don't care because it isn't productive.

I'd also like to point out, that simple features like this really do culminate into a larger picture. So each feature that we have, is like moving towards a better game. Yes its not something that should be put on 100% priority, but it should definitely be put on a list of fixes before the end of the year.

Furthermore, the popular opinion is that FFXIV has 100+ developers/artists/producers/etc all working toward the betterment of the game. Not all of these individuals will be working on the same project. Some will most likely be working only on UI fixes and developments, and nothing to do with battle reform other than the UI mechanics of the battle reform.

Overreaction on desperately? Probably on both sides of this discussion.

But the people who think adding a buyback feature is going in the wrong direction of the game, are incredibly mistaken.

[Deceptistar]

This was actually brought up to Yoshida recently as something that players have been looking forward to seeing, when he was told about the request he gave a simple "Got it!" in response. As for the direction they're moving towards, it'll be as mentioned above, a way to buy back previously (and accidentally!) sold items from vendors.

Next thing youll know is pple will want a 'save your progress or reset' button in case they fail leves or something other. Cause basically the buy back is a merchant reset button. >.>

[Carzilla]

thats your fault. no

[KaedrianLiang]

One of my friends accidentally vendor'ed12 bronze ingots that took him about 2hours to farm/synth and started screaming obscenities then went out to smoke. Took him some 6+months to log in again.

[ShinChuck]

I support Renshi 100% in regard to their opinion on the OP.

This feature is most certainly NOT DESPERATELY needed.

Right, we get it, people exaggerate. I'm sure you've said, "That's the worst when..." or "It's the best when..." or "Nothing is better than..." or "These are the best XXXX ever..." or what have you. As far as I can tell, you and Renshi both simply disagree with one tiny word in the original post, and OP has, I see, since clarified, mentioning, "I think the entire situation of desperately has been taken out of proportion."

Yes, it has. It was obviously an exaggeration, and we're all smart enough to know that. Let's not pretend, just for the sake of argument, that we're not smart enough to realize that, or understand the overall point of the original post. Really, let's not pretend we're politicians here - we're definitely more intelligent than that!

Anyway, apparently Yoshi-P agrees with us that it's something worth adding in the near future.