Yoshi-P: Atma drop % = "it's just luck"

[Merle]

Never again will i grind this hard, it made me feel terrible and i don't think others should have to experience this.

This is the saddest part. Once you're done with the 12 atmas, you don't have a feeling of accomplishment, but a relief: "pheeew.... is done. No more!!!!"

Like the atma book farm. I really felt relieved once i got my Animus. Told be truth, the shine of my Sphairai Animus made me smile and think "i did it". But hell.... i won't do a second Animus. I'm done.

[Havenchild]

You actually can have fairness on both sides with the atma quest. Simply making something akin to shards dropping that can be traded into an npc for a full stone. This way you can still have the random drop of a full stone to alleviate time in a particular area and at the same time reward people eventually who remained dedicated for hrs to obtain just one atma from an area.

[Jefu]

Personally, the grind hasn't been bad for me at all. I really started last Friday. I started Friday morning, and got my first Atma weapon Friday night, for my Paldin, my main class. Saturday, did FATE's all day again, and got my 2nd Atma weapon for my Warrior saturday night. Sunday, again,, did fates all day, and received my 3rd atma halfway through the day. 3rd Atma weapon was for my monk. Now, I have 11 Atma crystals for my 4th weapon, and it will probably go to my Scholar. I plan on getting them for every class. Most people complain that they do FATE's for hours with no drops, but i see a lot of people do maybe 5-10 FATE's, then quit. You will never get Atma that way. They also only do 1 or 2 FATE's on the map. If you want Atma weapons, it's all about doing as much FATE's per hour as you can. It's a challenge too sometimes, just getting there before the FATE is over. Set a goal, say 40-50 FATE's per hour, and try to reach that goal. Most FATE's are over in 2 minutes or less.

[zulu_kulu]

Personally,i got uber lucky, therefore the grind isnt bad

....right. the atma grind sux, plain and simple.


edit before you assume anything, i have 1 animus and 2 atma weapons and working on a 4th one. just because i have them doesnt mean i dont realize it still ballz

03/05

[Jefu]

I found that as long as I stuck with it, and did as many FATE's as I could per hour, that I almost always got an Atma within 40 FATE's. Rarely did it take me 2 or 3 hours in a zone to get one. I can understand getting lucky, but to be lucky for 3 days in a row, all day long. The drop rate is really higher than the 1% everyone mentions. I do believe it's either a 3% or 5% drop rate, but even at 5%, that doesn't mean you will get one after 20 FATE's. That means you have a 5% chance EVERY fate to get one, so you just keep trying and you will have them all before you know it. The main thing is to not give up and do lots of FATE's really fast. 2 people can also get Atma at the same time. Me and my FC mate both got the Atma of the Goat at the same time, from the same FATE, but we were not in a party. Just solo with our chocos. I've also had 2 or 3 Atma of the same type drop within 30 minutes on the same zone multiple times. Mainly Water Bearer and Scorpion.

[Jefu]

Well, then again, I'm an old school Final Fantasy player, and i'm used to grinds, and actually like them i guess. Everyone says, Oh this game is too easy, blahblahblah, there's nothing to do i've beaten everything. They also complain cause everyone has a relic zenith now, and you can buy carries for Allagan weapons and stuff. So SE puts something in to take a long time, so these people have something to do, then they want a nerf. Yeah it's low level fates, but if they would have put the Atmas as rare drops in Coil or something, people would just scream for nerfs and echo there too. Thing is you can't please everyone, and you do have other options, like levi or weathered weapons, but the drop rate for unidentified tomestones and mirrors are worse than Atma, so pick your choice. I like the idea cause you can't buy them this time, and it shows that you worked your ass off to get these weapons, even though it's not hard FATEs, but you still have to put in the hours to get it.

[Avarghaladion]

Well, then again, I'm an old school Final Fantasy player, and i'm used to grinds, and actually like them i guess. Everyone says, Oh this game is too easy, blahblahblah, there's nothing to do i've beaten everything. They also complain cause everyone has a relic zenith now, and you can buy carries for Allagan weapons and stuff. So SE puts something in to take a long time, so these people have something to do, then they want a nerf. Yeah it's low level fates, but if they would have put the Atmas as rare drops in Coil or something, people would just scream for nerfs and echo there too. Thing is you can't please everyone, and you do have other options, like levi or weathered weapons, but the drop rate for unidentified tomestones and mirrors are worse than Atma, so pick your choice. I like the idea cause you can't buy them this time, and it shows that you worked your ass off to get these weapons, even though it's not hard FATEs, but you still have to put in the hours to get it.

No one cares about the grind. Everyone is up in arms about the fact that it's boring, mindless anti-content that we're handing over money for. It isn't the least bit fun, stimulating, or entertaining.

Your experience with Atma farming is an extremely lucky one. There are people who's been working on this steadily since the patch hit and still don't have it. I just went 10hrs without a drop and that's nothing compared to the crap some people have suffered through. There's no defense for this fun-killing crap.

[Jefu]

I don't mind it though, and sometimes it actually can be a challenge. For instance, when you are trying to get Atma of the Lion, Scorpion, or Crab, instead of doing the "boring mindless" lv 7 FATE's all around the map, march into the Beastman Stronghold alone with only your choco, and Solo a lv 45-49 FATE. Especially one with like 20 mobs running around hitting you from everywhere. Makes you pay attention, and play your class to the better of your ability, or you die lol. Or you could just stick with the lv 7 FATE that is boring indeed, and dies in like 20 seconds. You have to make it fun, i always try to race everyone and get to the FATEs first, or kill as many as I can, but i'll hold back to let people get a kill or too sometimes so they get credit. There are just going to be those who hate it, and those who don't mind it. I don't mind it. Yes i know i've been lucky, but for 3 days in a row, all day long, and then all week, the few hours i've played during the week, gotten 11 so far.

[Jefu]

I can't count how many times i've literally seen people Tele to an area, see the same people for maybe 10-15 FATE's, then never see them again. Either means they got their atma, or gave up. It takes patience really, and most people in this game do not have it. You don't stay lucky for entire weeks at a time. If i do 3 times the amounts of FATE's you do, i have 3times the chance to get it, that's why people have a hard time. They don't do hard NM FATE;s, they just do the "kill 10 wolves" Fates or something and that's it, and spend half the hour waiting on the same FATEs to pop. I just don't understand how i could be lucky 3 full days in a row, then all week long, and i will probably get at least 2 more weapons this weekend, based on how they are dropping for me. Maybe my PS3 just has the best RNG ever. lol

[Jefu]

But A LOT of people do care about the grind. Forgetting the other options, but then even Levi takes farming and grinding to receive that God awful mirror or mount drop, and if people can actually even beat the new coil turns to have a shot at the new unidentified tomestone. And you have the added frustration of putting up with asses or people ninja looting. It all takes grinding, and the Atma stones are the easiest grind. At least you can make money by buying cokes and selling them. lol get rich They also seemed to drop better for me when I went in order, Starting with Maiden, and then going down the list. Less than 24 hours every time for the 4 i have so far. (Missing 1 stone for my 4th but that won't take long)