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    Quote Originally Posted by Lito00 View Post
    So I have been saving up Alexandrite... but before I start using them, I want to know what folks in the community think is the best Novus build for SMN.

    To preface the discussion:

    - It has now been proven that you can have a 44 Crit, 31 Det. There is no scaling or weighing for this i110 weapon. (My two cents: I think this is likely the best build)

    - The soldiery gear for SMN has a distinct lack of good Acc choices. So getting accuracy to 470, 480, and so on... for Second Coil can be a bit of a pain. (My two cents: I personally use some i90 gear to give me the necessary Acc)

    - Let's not forget that Novus will likley continue to grow in future patches. New gear will also become available, so let's keep that in mind when talking about builds.
    How you know you can put Crit 44 Det 31 ?

    Spades 110 is Crit 31 Det 31 = 66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    How you know you can put Crit 44 Det 31 ?

    Spades 110 is Crit 31 Det 31 = 66
    Same reason this is possible http://imgur.com/Aehn0oy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Same reason this is possible http://imgur.com/Aehn0oy
    OMFG This is absolute best

    Good thing I hold back Sand and not use it on weapon lol (been thinking its possible to up to 75 total Det + Crit)

    Thank you for pic and prove, finally find a reason worth to do Novus

    Time to say bye bye Spades Weathered lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    How you know you can put Crit 44 Det 31 ?

    Spades 110 is Crit 31 Det 31 = 66
    On the book of spades determination is the main stat and crit is the second stat. Its kind of dumb the way it works but since determination is valued higher, the cap for it being in the first slot is the same as if it is in the second slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    On the book of spades determination is the main stat and crit is the second stat. Its kind of dumb the way it works but since determination is valued higher, the cap for it being in the first slot is the same as if it is in the second slot.
    I already start with Determination first

    I still can get 44 crit later? curious lol
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    Yes, 44 Crit + 31 Det is an improvement over the Book of Spades, but that 13 extra crit is a literally negligible increase over the former. Too negligible, I'd argue, to justify the time spent in creating a Novus just to replace it.

    My recommendation would be to put some Accuracy on the weapon. Since Magic Damage is so much more a determinant of a weapon's damage than its secondary stats, your weapon is the one place where you can get away with sacrificing secondary stats without sacrificing too much damage. A bit of Accuracy will help you reach caps in the Second Coil and ease the transition into the Third Coil, where the Accuracy Caps will likely be even higher. That way, you can keep the Book of Spades around when you want to nuke and use the Novus when you need some Accuracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    On the book of spades determination is the main stat and crit is the second stat. Its kind of dumb the way it works but since determination is valued higher, the cap for it being in the first slot is the same as if it is in the second slot.
    Yep, it's valued higher. Think of a given weapon as having X number of "secondary stat points". Crit Rate costs 1 point our of your X. Determination, however, costs about 1.415 points out of your X. The Book of Spades has 75 points. The 31 Determination on it comes at a cost of 44 points, and the remaining 31 are in Crit. These values don't apply, however, to a Novus. Everything costs 1. A weapon with 44 Crit and 31 Det uses 88 secondary stat points. A weapon with 33 Piety, 31 Determination, and 11 of anything else uses a whopping 99!
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    Last edited by Donjo; 06-13-2014 at 08:18 AM.