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  1. #181
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Stop blaming the players first
    I have the right to blame whoever I want. Who are you to tell me what to do?
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    I have the right to blame whoever I want. Who are you to tell me what to do?
    Who are you to tell other people it's always their fault and to stop blaming the game? You're the first one in this thread telling others what to do, so you can do it but others can't? That's just sad.
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  3. #183
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Who are you to tell other people it's always their fault and to stop blaming the game? You're the first one in this thread telling others what to do, so you can do it but others can't? That's just sad.
    Please tell me where I told people what to do? If you were competent enough to read my comments correctly i was making statements regarding why people don't believe people when they say they are lagging. Again, keep hiding behind calling me a fanboy to cover up your incompetence.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Please tell me where I told people what to do? If you were competent enough to read my comments correctly i was making statements regarding why people don't believe people when they say they are lagging. Again, keep hiding behind calling me a fanboy to cover up your incompetence.
    You keep telling people to "own up for their mistakes" and you're always sure it is entirely their fault.

    "How do you know that it's not the majority that are making it up? You have numbers to back it up? I've played these games enough to know that people never own up to their mistakes. It's always excuses after excuses. So to me the majority is making it up."

    So yes, the only incompetence is from you for being so certain about those statements and assuming the majority is making stuff up every time they're hit, by doing that you are indeed delegitimizing the real server issues and again, that's just plain bad for the game. I agree that people should say something when they mess up by their own fault, I have seen people do that all the time without blaming lag, I myself admit it when I screw up even though I haven't been hit by both Titans since they were released. Again, only ignorant people instantly and blindly blame others when people mention lag because they are ignoring the server responsiveness issues that do exist, but I guess you are "entitled" to your opinion and nothing will change it, just like the state of these server issues won't, take care.
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  5. #185
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    You keep telling people to "own up for their mistakes" and you're always sure it is entirely their fault.

    "How do you know that it's not the majority that are making it up? You have numbers to back it up? I've played these games enough to know that people never own up to their mistakes. It's always excuses after excuses. So to me the majority is making it up."
    Tell me where in that statement I'm telling people what to do? I made a statement from my point of view. Nothing in that statement even implies that I'm telling people what to do. All I see there is your incompetent reading skills.
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    Lag is a real problem. Who here can say with a straight face they didn't get hit by plumes even though their character was outside the area? What it shows on screen and what actually happens is different.
    The difference between experienced players and inexperienced ones is that they learned how to fight lag. You don't wait for stuff to appear on screen, you move slightly ahead. Not much ahead as to make others eat your plume but just enough and after many tries it becomes second nature to know the right moment. That doesn't mean lag disappeared now, it only means you now know how to deal with it for this particular fight. New fight appears, you have to learn again how to preemptively move and avoid stuff.
    I continuously hear from new players "but I was out". Yeah, you were out of the area on your screen, in this game that doesn't matter.
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  7. #187
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    It's entirely the tone of your posts and it's not just projection on my part or however you want to discard it, it's basic English language really, I don't know how competent you are with it. You might not say it directly but you're always implying people should always blame themselves first instead of the game, you are always stating the majority blame lag when you yourself don't have the numbers to prove it's because of their skills or because of the current existing and very real server issues. It is your opinion and I respect it but it is wrong, it's an opinion that delegitimizes and belittles existing server issues, an opinion that will lead devs to constantly ignore all these responsiveness issues and do nothing about them because people like you are ok with them, because that's how the game works apparently.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Yeah, you were out of the area on your screen, in this game that doesn't matter.
    And that's precisely what I said in an earlier post. You have to know it's coming, and then once you do, you can figure out how to stand to *mostly* stay out of it. That's not testing skill - that's testing your ability to remember every single nuance of a fight after failing it x amount of times before.
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  9. #189
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Nice switching to personal insults to once again belittle these very real issues and sweep them under the rug, I'm sure as a fan that will help the game in the long run.
    I tell it like it is.
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  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    And that's precisely what I said in an earlier post. You have to know it's coming, and then once you do, you can figure out how to stand to *mostly* stay out of it.
    Sure and that's my point. That doesn't mean the game doesn't have lag, that means an experienced player learned how to deal with it. If you get hit while the character on the screen is outside that is lag, just plain and simple.
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