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  1. #211
    Player
    Seiryuukishi's Avatar
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    Helios Etoilefilante
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 90
    One thing I certainly won't be worried about when they're released. Gear. DoH ftw.
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  2. #212
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    DoubleT's Avatar
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    Double Toker
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    No!

    1 more dps is not going to catastrophicly destroy the balance of the DF as you seem to think. It already has an over-abundance of dps compared to tnk/healz, so 1 more is not going to make a huge difference. Yes a lot of people will be leveling it when it first comes out, but they did the same thing with arcanist when 2.0 released. An did that destroy the duty finder? No it didnt.
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  3. #213
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I like how you think just releasing a new Tank and Healer means people are going to play them, especially over the insanely popular Ninja. It really wouldn't make a significant difference, there would still be far too many DPS queuing verses Healers and Tanks.

    You know what would be a better "solution" to this "problem"? Increasing the Adventurer In Need bonus temporarily. Seeing as people will likely be able to queue up on low level and guildhest roulettes and almost guarantee the easiest dungeons/guildhests, I'm sure more than just myself will be taking advantage of that. Then there are people who haven't leveled everything and can use this as a good chance to level their Tanks and Healers. Even without new Tank or Healer Jobs, more Tanks and Healers are likely to be queuing than regular, if they're not, again, SE can just increase their reward for queuing.

    The only remaining "issue" is the number of Rouges running around the world doing FATEs/etc. The only serious problem there is the massive competition for Hunting Log entries, but again; Arcanist didn't cause huge problems in this regard, and Arcanist had a radioactive squirrel following them around. Much more screen clutter there.
    Offering 3 flavors is better than offering just 1.

    And in fact, if they announce Samurai as a class and it be a Tank, belive me, it would match the popularity of the Ninja right away.

    The increased reward is a good idea, but, everyone is expecting others to go for those rewards, so things will not change much, DF still going to hell because of Ninja overpopulation.
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  4. #214
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    Celebcarca's Avatar
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    Celeb Carca
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    Excalibur
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    Be the change in the world that you want to see instead of expecting everyone else to do so.....

    In other words, while everyone else is playing the new jobs, play tank. Don't expect everyone else to tank/heal so that you can play yet another dps job.

    The way I see it, the addition of new jobs/classes is the perfect time to take up tanking. While everyone is complaining about queues, you'll be reaping the benefit of not only returning players on those jobs but of the current players switching to them.

    But, of course, your response to that will be "But I don't wanna..."

    So I guess you can't complain when others "Don't wanna..."
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  5. #215
    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I think they are delaying it to 2.4 because they are preparing a tank and healer already.... (It is basic logic anyways...)

    In the videos the classes seemed to be ready for 2.3... So why not implementing them in 2.3?... Because it would happen what OP said...

    Reason that tanks and healers have not been revealed for 2.4 is either because they are not ready yet or they want it to be a surprise...

    If 2.4 doesn't bring tanks and healers with the extra DPS class and job then... then... I'll do a harvest dance. So imagine how sure I can say they'll come.
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  6. #216
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    Corfish's Avatar
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    Aiden Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    They have to be to be willing to put up with dps. Nice tanks stop being tanks after a short while.
    Healers and DPS have to put up with bad DPS too. The issues they cause are not exclusive to tanks. But we also have to put up with bad tanks, which are far more devastating. Tanks use being a tank for their bad attitudes towards others, when ALL the roles have to deal with the same crap.
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  7. #217
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    I think they are delaying it to 2.4 because they are preparing a tank and healer already.... (It is basic logic anyways...)
    Yoshi said tanks and healers are coming in the expansion, which will be discussed after 2.4 launches (fanfest is in October, 2.4 is supposed to be September)
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  8. #218
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravarashi View Post
    besides, titan HM will be 1 healer, 1 tank, 6 ninja
    Wow that would be awesome! Leonardo, Raphaello, Donatello, Michaelangelo, Dicaprio and prosciutto! (One I added o to make it sound like the others, part of the Bloody-O group!

    Next let's bring the 3 Musketeers into the fray!

    - so yeah, let's not forget all that there will be a letter 16 for 2.4, they might hide some nice surprises, which they always 'try' to do ^^
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 06-13-2014 at 02:32 AM.

  9. #219
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    Wow that would be awesome! Leonardo, Raphaello, Donatello, Michaelangelo, Dicaprio and proscuitto! (One I added o to make it sound like the others, part of the Bloody-O group!

    Next bring the 3 Musketeers into the fray!
    Make one Venus, after the girl turtle.
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  10. #220
    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    Yoshi said tanks and healers are coming in the expansion, which will be discussed after 2.4 launches (fanfest is in October, 2.4 is supposed to be September)
    thanks for the info!... So if I get wrong and 2.4 will bring a DPS chaos even if it seems not clever at all... Will I have to do the harvest dance or can I skip I ever did that deal? >_<
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