Why can't people dodge?

[Iriadysa]

Oh sure, people who have never had issues on other games, EVER, just have crappy connections and it's totally their fault or someone streaming.

It's not. This is a widespread, systematic complaint of "lag", and it's being used to redirect responsibility to the user instead of where it belongs: on SE. If I hadn't been here to see the travesty that was 1.0, I would probably have the same attitude you do. But I saw it. They still have some disconnect between what belongs on "server" and what belongs on "client" and how best to marry the two.

When I have the same issues on my work FIOS over the weekend that I have at home with my 15meg over cable connection at home - neither of which I'm wirelessly connecting through - the issue isn't just user needs to stop watching netflix.

You either have a problem with the route to the server or with your network configuration on both places you claim to have problems with.
It cannot be a matter of server / client architecture when it works fine for (probably) most people, including people on poor connections with very low SNR like mine (a very bad DSL connection, really far from the station).

Have you tried services like WTFast or Battleping? If that solves your problem, then the problem clearly lies on the route and, if you are very lucky, your ISP may be able to help with that. If that doesn't solve it, you should check on your network settings for clues on what could be causing this anomaly.

I'm not going to say their server/client architecture is flawless, but it's quite obvious that it works. The discrepancy you and others claim to have cannot be attributed simply to that or the problem would be more widespread than it is right now.

Seriously, check your Naggle. Its the least thing you can do.

[HeroSamson]

I think cause people can't afford good graphics cards, some still use GT geforce instead of a gtx card, which slows reaction time down, I should know I have a fast connection and had a gt card I kept getting hit.

I upgraded to a gtx and have zero issues now.

[Wildsprite]

So wouldn't that be something you call your own ISP about? And tell them your information is being sent wrong or something?

I don't think you understand how the internet works. your ISP has no control of hops outside of its own infrastructure. the moment you hit that first hop outside it becomes the problem of whatever infrastructure you hit. but it doesnt stop there. you can effectivally because of how the internet works hit 1000 hops before you reach your target and nobody can do anything about it because the internet is working as intended. each hop has 2 modes stop or pass, if stop is hit your connection gets routed to another hop backwards. if pass is hit it goes through to another hop forwards. they call it a web because it basically is, there are no straight routes anywhere on the internet.
a workaround like a VPN can help but those aren't flawless either.

my point here is this game is far too unforgiving for how the internet is structured.
so yeah lag might seem like an excuse to some of you but its legit for many of the people using it.
somehow I doubt everyone using that excuse is telling the truth though

I think cause people can't afford good graphics cards, some still use GT geforce instead of a gtx card, which slows reaction time down, I should know I have a fast connection and had a gt card I kept getting hit.

I upgraded to a gtx and have zero issues now.

not just graphics cards/chipsets. after some research I found out not all displays(external monitors/TV sets not built in laptop displays) show things fast enough for unforgiving gaming either. many HDTV sets are like that and some digital monitors as well.

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take it as a different stance. some people don't care to memorize fights like Titan because they never intend to do it again after they win it.
they don't see the value of the rewards vs the stress of learning the fight.
therefore since they have not memorized it they have to rely on fast decisions that are infact effected by lag and or latancy.

[Roris]

The game's netcode is most likely optimized for smaller regions with shorter hops, a lot of Asian games suffer from this, it works fine for their domestic connections but not so much for larger international regions. That on top on how the game calculates damage and doesn't seem to have enough server prediction, and also simply because of how the game is designed around fast sometimes almost split second reaction mechanics and assumes everyone has fast internet speed with fast and flawless communication between nodes to deal with these mechanics just adds to the issues a lot of people experience. No, I have no idea how the code actually works but yes I'm comfy in my armchair, thank you.

[NinjaTaru72]

Lag is no excuse. Of all the times I've ever run titan story/hm/ex(still to find a competent group for ex) I've only been hit by landslide once. ONCE, and that was my first time playing titan, in story, as mnk. Admittedly I'm running sch now, but still, never hit by a 2nd ls, and I'm usually ether dead because Dps take too long on jails, or someone fuck up and half the team gets wiped/shot of the edge. There have been times I've seen Dps suck so bad that I give up reviving them because I've had too any times that I've seen Dps revive and walk right into a hit to die again. I've also seen tanks screw up and get shot off the edge.


I will say my most entertaining moment was a sc revive on a Dps, revived in the red zone as titan broke the ground and the Dps finished raising, only to fall to his death XD

[Fynlar]

People can't dodge because some attacks are way too unforgiving with the amount of time they give you to dodge them.

That, and lag, whether it's connection or system related.

[Vallug]

Well then, this thread exploded more than I thought it would when I made it o.o
OK so I can understand if people have crappy connections and all that, though the one thing I have to agree with 100% is tanks should have an idea of what to do when they queue. On Garuda HM..got two tanks who had no idea what they were supposed to do and RAN IN without getting any help. I stuck with it awhile but left eventually after someone else did. As a DPS I do not always read up on anything because I adapt quickly to fights, I am good at it so I do not always feel the need. If I do think I need some info I do google it because I do not wanna be a burden.

[Swishytail]

Totally read this as "Why can't people doge?"

I need to go to bed. Much tired. x.x

[schism]

The fight as a whole was just a bad idea but I think alot of the endgame fights are just bad. Its just the same scripted thing over and over again. Whats fun about mashing buttons as fast as we can repeatedly so we do the most possible damage? It's been done, move on and create something better and something that you can actually say belongs in an mmoRPG because what we have is crap.

[wicked-one]

Been grinding titan..I know it is DF but cmon..when many of the DPS have 100 level gear I expect them to be goodish..but so many times it comes down to me being the only dps alive..and we turtle along until I kill it. Why are people so bad at dodging ;_; titan HM isnt even hard.

Wearing i100 Gear means nothing, because that´s the Gear sold for those Tomes you get by beating a Dungeon done in 12 Minutes ;-)

Look out for People with High Allagan Gear, or Leviathan Weapons, so they at least got past Titan EX one time... (or you aks them whom they paid for) ^^