Why can't people dodge?

[ApolloGenX]

Well... my newfound lag has been accompanied by marvelous instances of freezing and then fast-forwarding 10-15 seconds along with disconnect errors.... so, you can say it's just me - that's fine. I'm not playing anyway until it's fixed or my sub runs out. So, I definitely won't be someone that DF groups will be seeing eating AEs repeatedly in the DF.

[Makado]

It's not quite server lag, if you run a trace route during lag, you'll notice you may be getting directed to a wrong place, i.e. 1 hop to Canada then the next hop into Kansas, it's how traffic is being handled, lag usually for me happens during peak eastern times. The weirdness starts when it hits Canada, I live in NY, and have had up to 3 second lag to near freezing up, it's not a graphics issue I run at 70 fps on the highest settings possible, it's a traffic issue.

So wouldn't that be something you call your own ISP about? And tell them your information is being sent wrong or something?

[F3rd1nand]

Noone said that it's not happening, but I can assure you it's not happening as much as you people say. I can play on any servers and not have any problems with lag. I just admit that I suck.

I also admit it's my fault if I died for any reasons that weren't lag. But one situation, for example, that was frustrating.. I went as MNK and did fine dodging all landslides and plumes, but unfortunately a few of our dps and healers kept dying over and over on plumes (perhaps they were lagging), I didn't got mad over it, but 8 wipes later, I was the one starting to have latency issues. Each group stack on Titan's butt = death on me, because the plumes I could dodge just fine earlier, were unavoidable then. ):

[Purplenum]

I don't have any problems dodging things outside of Titan Ex. I hate to try and blame it on lag but even when I'm outside of the radius of plumes I get hit sometimes. It's annoying.

[Heavy01Mk2]

Been grinding titan..I know it is DF but cmon..when many of the DPS have 100 level gear I expect them to be goodish..but so many times it comes down to me being the only dps alive..and we turtle along until I kill it. Why are people so bad at dodging ;_; titan HM isnt even hard.

HA! Wait till you try titan ex through DF, it'll make you want to swallow a bullet. Now excuse me gentlemen, I have a bullet to take.

[Tempting]

That's an old gif. They've done a lot of improvements to server synchronization since then.

Even if some improvements have been fixed, look at the video posted directly under mine where its current.
Ya...Don't seem that improved to me.

[SionDurant]

Honestly,

SE should remove any fight that's this notorious from the progression ladder so that it's not so stressful.

Titan EX really should be switched with Ifrit EX if they insist on it being a gateway.

I constantly get excuses about Lag all the time and if the network is truly this bad, it's really just not fair to have this fight bar you from additional content in any way.

I personally experience no issue fighting titan, I am never hit but I constantly get in parties that can't make it passed Phase 1 using Party Finder.

[Souljacker]

I've played a lot of games in the last ten years, and all of them have had some degree of "don't stand in bad". This game, however, is the first one where it feels like you have to anticipate it in order to get out fast enough. Sometimes the stars align and the system registers your movement properly. Sometimes I'm halfway across the screen from where one of these mechanics graphics hit and I still get smacked with it. At some point I came to terms with the reality that it really isn't just me. I've done hard raiding content in WoW and Rift and never have I experienced the kind of "lag" seen in this game.

I'll even go so far as to say there's far too much of it. Every other cast you have to dodge "something" and it feels like in a lot of fights SE just couldn't come up with any other ways to make them challenging so they added more "gtfo bad".

There is some combination of

1. the mechanics aren't tuned properly and don't give enough real reaction time
2. the character movement speed needs to be taken up a notch so can dodge better
3. fewer "don't stand in bad" mechanics and more clever strategy-based methods of checking player skill
4. more improvements still needed to latency of the UI client
5. The mechanics need to do a better "where is the player" check before the damage is distributed. Some of them really feel like they hit based on where you were 1 second after the graphic was shown, not 1 second before the attack actually hit. This could be lag, but if it is they really need to find a better way to use bandwidth. No other game has complaints like I see here about not being able to dodge things because of "lag" (and "lag" is the universal answer even given in this thread. I have news: "lag" in this context seems to be wholly unique to Eorzea).

[Iriadysa]

Honestly,

SE should remove any fight that's this notorious from the progression ladder so that it's not so stressful.

Titan EX really should be switched with Ifrit EX if they insist on it being a gateway.

I constantly get excuses about Lag all the time and if the network is truly this bad, it's really just not fair to have this fight bar you from additional content in any way.

I personally experience no issue fighting titan, I am never hit but I constantly get in parties that can't make it passed Phase 1 using Party Finder.

They are already removing it. 2.3 will no longer have this as a requirement for Leviathan and Yoshi said yesterday in E3 that we can safely throw away our Rowena tokens because they have no immediate plans for them.

No one in their right mind is going to waste any effort into finishing this fight ever again. The earrings are pointless, it's just i90 junk which you can just buy with myths or get in Coil with less trouble and the i90 weapons you get for the completing the triad are a waste of time if you can just hop into Leviathan and get your shiny i95. Any new player will get their Relic first, any old player will simply farm leviathan or do the Relic quest again.

RIP Titan Extreme.

On another note about the lagging people:

If you lag on Titan, you lag everywhere. You may not notice it well because in most of the game you can get carried through (your healer will heal through the AoE you ate) or the dodge checks are simply not demanding.

Anyone that is lagging to the point where you can honestly say you were outside and you still got hit needs to stop asking SE for easier content and instead take a good look at what is actually causing the problem. Wireless, Naggle being turned on, someone else in the household streaming or otherwise, etc.

[Souljacker]

Anyone that is lagging to the point where you can honestly say you were outside and you still got hit needs to stop asking SE for easier content and instead take a good look at what is actually causing the problem. Wireless, Naggle being turned on, someone else in the household streaming or otherwise, etc.

Oh sure, people who have never had issues on other games, EVER, just have crappy connections and it's totally their fault or someone streaming.

It's not. This is a widespread, systematic complaint of "lag", and it's being used to redirect responsibility to the user instead of where it belongs: on SE. If I hadn't been here to see the travesty that was 1.0, I would probably have the same attitude you do. But I saw it. They still have some disconnect between what belongs on "server" and what belongs on "client" and how best to marry the two.

When I have the same issues on my work FIOS over the weekend that I have at home with my 15meg over cable connection at home - neither of which I'm wirelessly connecting through - the issue isn't just user needs to stop watching netflix.

I'm not asking for easier content. I'm actually asking for HARDER content, but harder in a way that makes sense. More light spots on the floor to run out of just for the sake of artificially inflating difficulty in the form of cast interrupts is a terrible way to build an encounter. Give me an Akylios style fight over this "run run run!" any day. Fewer things that depend on the stars aligning between my computer and their server, and more that challenges our ability to figure out and manage a boss and his or her adds as a TEAM.