Rogue/Ninja with 2.4 and no new tank/heals?

[Ashkendor]

Fact is, I'm pretty sure releasing new tanks/healers wouldn't do much to increase the permanent population of tanks/healers in the game.

Sure leveling-dungeon queues might go down temporarily. But people that haven't leveled a tank/healer class for dungeon queues already probably aren't going to pick one up on release of a new variety.

So much this. The people that say "our current tank/heal classes suck, if we had a new one I'd play it" are the type that are going to pick up the new class, level it to 15 or 20 and go "omg this is haaaaaaaaard this class sucks" and then drop it like a bad habit. Tank (and healer to a lesser degree) just isn't a very appealing role for most players; it seems like there's too much effort and responsibility tied up in it for them to really enjoy it.

[KingOfAbyss]

I remember when Arcanist came out ...and Carbuncles were everywhere.
Now everyone will be in stealth!

Didn't Arcanist came out at the same time than the other ones?

It's just - Carbuncles! That you will enjoy as class, to never make them shine again once you get a job..

Kids, don't get into the JOBs payroll, it's a trap!

*goes into stealth mode (poof!) <-- sound fx

[Shinkyo]

While I'll still be using my tank for my daily Expert roulette, don't expect my WAR/PLD to be doing much content other than coil raids in 2.4.
I'll be busy leveling my NIN (along with many many many other players).
This is really ridiculous, SE needs to introduce a full set of new Tank/DPS/Healer if they don't want to imbalance the role ratio.

I'll only be temporarily but still ...

[Zacko]

While I'll still be using my tank for my daily Expert roulette, don't expect my WAR/PLD to be doing much content other than coil raids in 2.4.
I'll be busy leveling my NIN (along with many many many other players).
This is really ridiculous, SE needs to introduce a full set of new Tank/DPS/Healer if they don't want to imbalance the role ratio.

I'll only be temporarily but still ...

That's exactly what I said too. I will still do some things on my PLD/SCH but just like the rest of the people I also wanna lvl NIN.

Oh well, back to FATE farming i guess

[Jamez82]

The reason for the lack of tanks and healers isn't because of a lack of variety (though I'm sure it'll help a little), it's the community. I simply refuse to tank unless it's with a group of friends.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way.

[abzoluut]

I simply refuse to tank unless it's with a group of friends.

This pretty much sums it up.

I play all jobs except for ranged caster dps. Melee/ranged feel free. Healing can get intens endgame (2nd coil) or ex primals if your party average ilvl is just above the recommended one. However the 4 man content feels free for my healer too. Tanking on the other hand takes much more effort. I can't quite explain why, it just feels that way everytime I duty roullete expert or do some other 4 man content.

People feel they are working for others when they tank which makes it less appealing to do.

I love tanking since I decide what pace we'll be going and I know I wont mess up. Nothing more frustrating when you join as dps but the tank is slacking for some reason. Communication sometimes kills 4 man content, we might do a better job at that.

[Ashkendor]

The reason for the lack of tanks and healers isn't because of a lack of variety (though I'm sure it'll help a little), it's the community. I simply refuse to tank unless it's with a group of friends.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way.

I don't like hitting up low level roulette on my tank because there's several dungeons I'm not all that familiar with. I've run them, but not repeatedly and to the point where I feel like I'm good at them. The same goes for high level roulette; now that I can high-level roulette in a party, I go with my FC and they help me along through the dungeon if needed. They don't mind helping me learn. Randoms, however, would likely have nothing but vitriol.

I do feel a lot more "free" as a healer/dps but I honestly do love tanking with people that are willing to help me learn. I just... don't like tanking for the majority of the asshats that are kicking around in the Duty Finder.

[Kletian]

Prebuild a party with an arcanist and 3 rogues and I'm sure you could get to level 30.

[snakey77]

while I'm crazy hanging for a rogue/ ninja .. i would have preferred to have both a rogue job and ninja job .. i feel rogue in itself would have made for a really nice job to play on its own merits.. i can't see why SE is adding more dps to an already over crowded market so to speak.. they seem to scream we need more tanks throw incentives at tanks roulette favours tanks/healers and the tanking special mounts .. there own stats say the game lacks tanks.. yet the hand us a dps class .. it then begs to question what job/class will they make the musketeer? i really hope the make it dual wielding ranged dps not some sort of messed up tank class!! but then more dps!!!

[wicked-one]

And new tank/heals classes will be in the expansion, as they said in the live letter. As for who will tank for them, (as Viviza said) the same ones doing it now for the insta-queues and bonus rewards.

Well, I am one of those who like the insta-queue, mainly made my PLD for no other reason...

When i heard of the Ninja I was all about "go for it", but on a second thought, I look in a future of 90% Ninjas running around the server...

depends on how good/bad balanced they are, that´s a train where many will hop on IMHO...